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astrology,feng shui and research

R.A.F. said:
What exactly do you mean when you say that chinese astrology "works"???
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hi it doesnt tell bull like your personality traits in a general way. It focus on what matters like wether you can achieve power and leadership,money,good or bad marriage, if you have talent to study or will give up studying,that kind of stuff

paulo:eye-poppi
 
Aepervius said:
I had a "colleague" back before making my doctorat, he had a brother. My colleague was a bit chaotic, quite funny, and rather well spirited (he was also what i would call slim). His brother was rather mean spirited, big boned (well... Let us say straighly a bit of the fat side but not quite obese), and nearly 10 cm smaller. I can't even say they had opposite character for everything (even if it comes as that in my post text), but their character was different (not opposite not similar). I met his brother at a birthday party.

Here is the KICKER. They were TWINS ! They were born only VERY few minute appart (their own mother words) and I can guarantee it was in the middle of the day.

If they are two people which are a counter example on how you can predict accuratly anything base on birthdate and hour, it was those. You would have to go down to the minute. And now here is the kicker : unless all the doctor in all maternity suddenly started to use UTC(edit and an a clock synchronised to an atomic clock on UTC), the "minute" things was taken from the wall hour. Which is most probably different by minutes from an hospital to the next.


Furthermore if somebody is born at 16h , and he go to a chinese astrologer, a german one, or a los angeles one, I BET MY WEIGHT IN CHOCOLATE EGGS that they are using the "16h" without hourtime shift as somebody precised in another post.
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Hi

my teavher reaction to the question about twins is that astrology is metaphysics, it is like comparing whales with minnows. No straightforward answer

paulo
 
woodwater said:
hi it doesnt tell bull like your personality traits in a general way. It focus on what matters like wether you can achieve power and leadership,money,good or bad marriage, if you have talent to study or will give up studying,that kind of stuff

paulo:eye-poppi
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Far too much could be learned by reading my posts, so I'll opt out.

Thanks
 
Hi woodwater.
One question, what do you claim to be able to do using chinese astrology? Please be specific.
 
TruthSeeker said:
Far too much could be learned by reading my posts, so I'll opt out.

Thanks
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Get the info for a few people you know, who do not post here. See if they can pick their own out of the lot of them. Give them to your friends in sealed packages and let them choose out of sight of you so you don't give clues.
 
woodwater said:
now that i think of it, since you are skeptics maybe i can do your charts and you tell me what you think,since i believe your judgement wont be biased. Clients always agree with me even when i do fake charts because they have no critical skills.

paulo
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Or perhaps the fake charts seemed to fit them as well? And if they thought the fake chart fit their personality, why would you disagree - don't they know themselves pretty well?

If your clients thought the fake ones were real, maybe that means that the charts aren't working?
 
I hate to quote myself, but you opened the thread with a critique of Dean, and I responded to it. I'd kinda like to know your response to my questions.

Mercutio said:
Did you note that Gauguelin's data also are subject to several other fake birthday biases? Higher than expected births on "lucky" days, lower on "unlucky" days, for instance?

Did you note that Gauguelin's data only found effects based on position of planets in the sky at the specific time of birth, and did not find any effects of traditional astrological variables? This is a strange sort of "evidence for astrology" indeed.

If the effects are not an artifact of fake birthtimes (and dates), then another sample (rather than the one that yielded the Mars Effect) should replicate the finding. If a sample is collected from a population for which specific medical records are required, the potential for fake birthtimes as an artifact is minimized; indeed, if the effect is real, the more specific the medical records are, the more the effect will show up.

Rather than complain that Dean's critique was wrong, you should be attempting to replicate Gauguelin on a different sample. After all, astrology that only works on one specific sample is useless.
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Mercutio said:
I hate to quote myself, but you opened the thread with a critique of Dean, and I responded to it. I'd kinda like to know your response to my questions.
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Hi

i wasnt aware of that. Anyway i think western astrology is too complex to prove itself. I wouldnt bet on it for accuracy

paulo
 
eri said:
Or perhaps the fake charts seemed to fit them as well? And if they thought the fake chart fit their personality, why would you disagree - don't they know themselves pretty well?

If your clients thought the fake ones were real, maybe that means that the charts aren't working?
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My colleagues accused me of doing too general readings so my test was not conclusive
 
Donks said:
Hi woodwater.
One question, what do you claim to be able to do using chinese astrology? Please be specific.
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Hi

i can
1- tell you if your relationship with spouse is good or bad
2- if you seek power in your life above all
3-if you seek wealth or women above all in your life
4-if you trust yourself
5-if the relation with sons or parents are good or bad
6- you show me some birthdates and ask me which ones belong to politicians or artists and i tell you.

actual predictions depend on wether what you do,so i dont claim to make predictions for the future
 
Hi

it seems that believers and skeptics are of the same kind. Both have vested interests. Believers refuse to be tested because theyre afraid i prove astrology doesnt work,here it seems youre afraid i prove your skepticism is wrong.
So i decided to open my own forum for tsting in case anyone is interested in research
my group is fengshuip@yahoogroups.com

paulo:mad:
 
woodwater said:
Hi


6- you show me some birthdates and ask me which ones belong to politicians or artists and i tell you.

actual predictions depend on wether what you do,so i dont claim to make predictions for the future
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Google makes it possible for me to do that too!

If I gave you a list of birthdays that I have personally searched on google to make sure you can't identify the person could you match them to the person's occupation?
 
woodwater said:
Hi

it seems that believers and skeptics are of the same kind. Both have vested interests. Believers refuse to be tested because theyre afraid i prove astrology doesnt work,here it seems youre afraid i prove your skepticism is wrong.
So i decided to open my own forum for tsting in case anyone is interested in research
my group is fengshuip@yahoogroups.com

paulo:mad:
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Give a perfect stranger intimate details such as Date of Birth?
Yeah right.

Well if I tell you that I am born on the same year/month/day as a Famous Dancer does that make me artistic?
 
TruthSeeker said:
Google makes it possible for me to do that too!

If I gave you a list of birthdays that I have personally searched on google to make sure you can't identify the person could you match them to the person's occupation?
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never tried but am willing to:D
 
Okay, Woodwater, I'll give you a challenge. Look up my posts on this site, figure out my personality, and tell us all my birth date. I'll consider it a hit if you get within 30 days, that's a 1:6 chance.

Note, I lied about it in my profile, I used a date made up from family member's dates.
 
casebro said:
Okay, Woodwater, I'll give you a challenge. Look up my posts on this site, figure out my personality, and tell us all my birth date. I'll consider it a hit if you get within 30 days, that's a 1:6 chance.

Note, I lied about it in my profile, I used a date made up from family member's dates.
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how on earth could i tell you your birthdate baed on your personality?
You obviosly dont know how astrology works. :cool:
 
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