Assistance required for telepathy proof

beren said:
To be fair, he claimed he did it once, which is not the same thing at all.
I can cause someone to startled by yelling at them, but not necessarily every time I do. Further, if I do it at a predictable time, chances are that by the 4th time they will expect it and brace themselves.
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He certainly should be able to do it tomorrow, when they're not expecting it, though, no? It'd certainly be a start.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
golfy says he's responsible for the only double false start in F1 history. So a double false start 4 races on the trot while he's trying to cause 2 false starts on the trot sounds like a test with a very low probability of just being chance to me.
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quite true. I mentioned my recollection of single false starts, because jsfisher's question was unclear as to whether he'd missed your earlier comment about a double false start, or was curious about the lesser claim of a causing single false start -- and was wondering if a single false start on the Malaysian GP would be something golfy might jump on.

A single false start would not be significant if golfy didn't predict here before the event that there'd be a false start.

Yes, I'm aware that predicting before the event is a tautology :)
 
I had missed the earlier comment about double-false starts, but I was also hoping the discussion of likelihood would entice golfy.
 
golfy said:
(snip) Within a few tests I knew what every answer would be but had to follow the protocol and started to get more predicted answers wrong than correct overall from the start of the test.
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golfy
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But here's where this works in your favor. The JREF (or any sceptical group with a cash challenge) will not really care what your machine is saying. All they care about is what your final answer is. So even if you veer off of the protocol you had in mind, if you can predict what the test subject has written down, that's all that matters. You say you knew the answers despite what the machine is saying. That's good enough. That should win you the million if you can really do it. Good luck!

Ward
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
You've been given a protocol for a perfect, entirely accurate, entirely unmanipulable test. Tomorrow morning at 8AM, live on BBC 1 is the Malaysian Grand Prix. You have claimed that you can cause 2 false starts live on a Grand Prix while watching it on television. Repeat this. Tomorrow morning, cause 2 false starts on the Malaysian Grand Prix.

If you can do it, then you can do it again next week. Do it 4 races in a row and we can call it a successful test.

That's all you've got to do - repeat something that you already believe you've done, something which is a rare enough event that nobody else can put down to chance. Just create 2 false starts tomorrow and for the 3 races after that. It should be simple for you to do, it's something that nobody will be able to deny you did, it's easily falsifiable by you not being able to do it, and it's something that you shouldn't be able to rationalise away to yourself.

Just think - you joined nearly 3 years ago wanting to test your claim out. You can have a definitive answer by 22nd May. Sounds like a good deal, no?
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And non of the F1 drivers will be hearing me reading this post ahead of time? They will not be ready for it this time and of course false start again just for my benefit?

golfy
 
It wasn't a double false start - watch the video and listen to the commentary. I said multiple false start - multiple cars started at the same time. A single car false starting is rare but does happen - Fernando Alonso did it last year but nothing to do with me.

golfy
 
Getting the wrong answer ten times out of ten as the GSR gives high on the wrong and low on the right causing an incorrect prediction every time is statistically irrelevant according to Hitch. I am better of on my own doing experiments and working out the next step than listening to you lot.

And by the way the F1 GP is next week, 8 - 10th of April.

golfy
 
golfy said:
I am better of on my own doing experiments and working out the next step than listening to you lot.
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Not if you want to convince anyone other than yourself. Although if we're all conspiring against you, what makes you think any test would convince us? According to you, we already KNOW you're telepathic, so why are you bothering with testing at all?
 
golfy said:
And non of the F1 drivers will be hearing me reading this post ahead of time? They will not be ready for it this time and of course false start again just for my benefit?

golfy
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So you can't do any protocol that you're aware of ahead of time?

You really have constructed your delusion in such a way that you can't possibly falsify it, haven't you? This is a shame, as you so obviously need help. I can only hope that someone in your life intervenes at some point and gets you that help.
 
I have nothing to say about golfy's most recent "testing" that I haven't said ten times already. He is intentionally untestable.

So... Golfy, how goes your harassment of the local coppers?

golfy said:
As for the police issue, I have a complaint in with the IPCC (Independent Police Complaints Commission) so as to pressure the two police officers into taking a cat ship test. I am hoping it will happen soon.
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What's up with that?

What is "the police issue"?
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
So you can't do any protocol that you're aware of ahead of time?

You really have constructed your delusion in such a way that you can't possibly falsify it, haven't you? This is a shame, as you so obviously need help. I can only hope that someone in your life intervenes at some point and gets you that help.
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Stop trying to make unworkable protocols my fault, construct something usefull instead. Blaming others for you own failures is pointless, you are simply failing at the firts hurde due to lack of thought.

Beren worked it out, why can't you.

beren said:
To be fair, he claimed he did it once, which is not the same thing at all.
I can cause someone to startled by yelling at them, but not necessarily every time I do. Further, if I do it at a predictable time, chances are that by the 4th time they will expect it and brace themselves.
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A P300 or reliable cat ship test will falsify my claim, an inadequate badly thought out protocol will not.

golfy
 
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golfy, nothing will verify your claim. We're all in on the conspiracy to deny it, remember? Why would we throw our hands in the air and say "Ok, you got us!" to any test?
 
golfy said:
A P300 or reliable cat ship test will falsify my claim, an inadequate badly thought out protocol will not.

golfy
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No it won't, because you don't want it to. I mean, what did you post here today? You did a test which was inconclusive - which therefore means you are telepathic. Had you guessed correctly all 10 times, it would have meant you are telepathic. Had you guessed incorrectly all 10 times, it would have meant your sitter was deliberately lying to you, meaning you are telepathic. Had you guessed correctly a majority of times, it would have meant you are telepathic. Had you guessed incorrectly a majority of times, it would have meant your sitter was deliberately lying to you some of the time, meaning you are telepathic. Whatever result you got, it would have been proof you're telepathic, as far as you're concerned.

You've been on this board for 3 years and haven't yet come up with a protocol which you will accept with falsify your claim. In the recording of the test with your doctor which you posted earlier in the thread you said that you've been experiencing this belief that you are telepathic for 30 years. 30 years and you're still waiting on something to prove your claim. It couldn't be more obvious that, despite your lip-service, you are not looking to falsify your claim and will instead rationalise away anything evidence which you think runs counter to it.

Please, please go back to your doctor and have her refer you to a psychiatrist and insist on getting the treatment you so obviously need.
 
golfy said:
And non of the F1 drivers will be hearing me reading this post ahead of time? They will not be ready for it this time and of course false start again just for my benefit?

golfy
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No, I don't think F1 drivers will read this board ahead of time. I don't think they know this board exists. I'm guessing that if any of us were cool enough to hang around with F1 drivers, we wouldn't be posting on these boards either.

Ward
 
I think golfy means they'll be able to hear his thoughts as he reads the post now. Remember, he's broadcasting to everyone all the time. It's just no one ever mentions it ever.
 
golfy said:
Getting the wrong answer ten times out of ten as the GSR gives high on the wrong and low on the right causing an incorrect prediction every time is statistically irrelevant according to Hitch. I am better of on my own doing experiments and working out the next step than listening to you lot.

And by the way the F1 GP is next week, 8 - 10th of April.

golfy
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No. Getting the answer wrong half the time on a 50-50 test because your blinky-lights machine fails to produce any meaningful information renders any occasional string of hits statistically irrelevant. You can't just guess and guess and guess and cherry pick a few results that you like and throw out all of your misses.
 
Sledge said:
Remember, he's broadcasting to everyone all the time. It's just no one ever mentions it ever.
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Maybe we just can't hear him over the cacophony of noise from all the other psychics in the world. Those guys ought to shut up once in a while, it could send a person crazy.

Funny that golfy never mentions hearing all the other psychics. I predict he can explain away why not, though.
 
Hmm, that raises a good point: are there other telepaths, golfy, or is it just you?
 
Sledge said:
I think golfy means they'll be able to hear his thoughts as he reads the post now. Remember, he's broadcasting to everyone all the time. It's just no one ever mentions it ever.
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I don't know why you persist in this untruth. Of course we talk about it.

We've been found out and we should admit it. Yes, we can all hear all his thoughts, all the time.

Once we all admit this then there's no need for him ever to post again, as all he needs to do is think a thing and everyone in the world knows it. By even posting he is in fact falsifying his own position.

This seems to me to be a consummation devoutly to be wished.
 
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