Assistance required for telepathy proof

golfy said:
If I were to ... I would then ...attempt to ... I would have ... would ... whether it would be ... would ...I don’t []... yet and I can’t ...
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Just making a point here, even though you seem to understand that all that is just too vague.

Untill I have satisfied the requirements it would totally foolhardy to apply. As I don’t have the results yet and I can’t categorically state when I will have them, then how can I decide whether or not I will be applying.
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Then just stop debating the challenge here, take time off this section of the forum, regroup, do what you have to do and then return to submit a challenge and work on an actual protocoll.

This section of the forum is very, very, very specific. People will, I assume, be happy to help you out elsewhere. (Just do not expect any more sympathy for the inclusion of a polygraph ...)
 
golfy said:
I am finding this difficult to answer such obvious questions which should be self explanatory and not even need answering without resorting to criticism.

If I were to start to obtain reliable experimental proof that confirm that I am telepathic I would then take the route of having those results confirmed my an academic and then attempt to obtain media coverage. At that point I would have satisfied the JREF requirements apart from the protocol or use of a GSR or polygraph and would then take advice on whether it would be worthwhile to then go for the MDC.

Untill I have satisfied the requirements it would totally foolhardy to apply. As I don’t have the results yet and I can’t categorically state when I will have them, then how can I decide whether or not I will be applying.

golfy
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Still an evasive answer for a simple question; but fair enough, given your displayed appearance.

On to the next one: Why do you think everyone lies about receiving your telepathic messages?
 
Rasmus said:
Just making a point here, even though you seem to understand that all that is just too vague.



Then just stop debating the challenge here, take time off this section of the forum, regroup, do what you have to do and then return to submit a challenge and work on an actual protocoll.

This section of the forum is very, very, very specific. People will, I assume, be happy to help you out elsewhere. (Just do not expect any more sympathy for the inclusion of a polygraph ...)
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If I don’t stop debating, you moan I am not answering the questions.

I will be doing some experiments soon with a GSR. I don’t have to update you if you are not interested in any progress (you could also stop posting and debating and reading, it’s not compulsory), positive or negative that can be gleaned from the experiments.

golfy
 
"Will the JREF allow the use of a polygraph in the Million Dollar Challenge?"

"No."

(no spike)

"Did you lie about your answer?"

"No."

(no spike)
 
golfy said:
If I don’t stop debating, you moan I am not answering the questions.

I will be doing some experiments soon with a GSR. I don’t have to update you if you are not interested in any progress (you could also stop posting and debating and reading, it’s not compulsory), positive or negative that can be gleaned from the experiments.

golfy
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Why do you think everyone lies about receiving your telepathic messages?
 
Rasmus,

If I try this it may work. Hope it does but it may not. I assume that I have tried what I know of at present but will attempt to learn as I hope the experiments will teach me something on the way. As I hopefully get more information it should give me a batter chance of success at achieving my goals. It may be what I had intended and if so I will be a happy man. Repeat X hundred times = light bulb by Thomas Edison.

May, could, hope etc.

golfy
 
GzuzKryzt said:
Because you seem to have a hard time answering simple and direct questions. Such as this one:

Why do you continue to post in the Million Dollar Challenge subforum if you do not intend to apply, golfy?
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I am finding this difficult to answer such obvious questions which should be self explanatory and not even need answering without resorting to criticism.

If I were to start to obtain reliable experimental proof that confirm that I am telepathic I would then take the route of having those results confirmed my an academic and then attempt to obtain media coverage. At that point I would have satisfied the JREF requirements apart from the protocol or use of a GSR or polygraph and would then take advice on whether it would be worthwhile to then go for the MDC.

Untill I have satisfied the requirements it would totally foolhardy to apply. As I don’t have the results yet and I can’t categorically state when I will have them, then how can I decide whether or not I will be applying.

golfy
 
golfy said:
I am finding this difficult to answer such obvious questions which should be self explanatory and not even need answering without resorting to criticism.

If I were to start to obtain reliable experimental proof that confirm that I am telepathic I would then take the route of having those results confirmed my an academic and then attempt to obtain media coverage. At that point I would have satisfied the JREF requirements apart from the protocol or use of a GSR or polygraph and would then take advice on whether it would be worthwhile to then go for the MDC.

Untill I have satisfied the requirements it would totally foolhardy to apply. As I don’t have the results yet and I can’t categorically state when I will have them, then how can I decide whether or not I will be applying.

golfy
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Why do you think everyone lies about receiving your telepathic messages, golfy?
 
GzuzKryzt said:
Why do you think everyone lies about receiving your telepathic messages, golfy?
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I don't see that as relevant to proving my telepathic ability apart from it necessitates the use of a GSR or polygraph in experiments to prove that I am telepathic.

golfy
 
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golfy said:
I don't see that as relevant to proving my telepathic ability apart from it necessitates the use of a GSR or polygraph in experiments.

golfy
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Not relevant?? Does not compute, does not compute.

The polygraph is one big issue regarding a possible protocol, and you consider the question why everybody is lying to you not relevant?

If the entire world population was not united in one big conspiracy, namely lying to you, the protocol could be as simple and short like three paragraphs.

It is a very relevant question.

It is very relevant, because the fact that nobody can repeat what you transmitted could possibly have a very simple, alternative explanation. One very different from "everybody is just lying, I know I can do it."
 
golfy said:
I don't see that as relevant to proving my telepathic ability apart from it necessitates the use of a GSR or polygraph in experiments.

golfy
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Does this mean your stance "I will state again - I have never changed my stance which is – I think, they hear, I ask “Did you hear?, they lie and say “No.” has changed?
 
Beats me how anyone can definitively connect a spike or its absence on a device with noises (words) in the air. How exactly does that work?

M.
 
GzuzKryzt said:
Does this mean your stance "I will state again - I have never changed my stance which is – I think, they hear, I ask “Did you hear?, they lie and say “No.” has changed?
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I asked you to think before you ask.

How does "it necessitates the use of a GSR or polygraph in experiments to prove that I am telepathic." indicate that my belief that that are lying has changed?
 
golfy said:
I asked you to think before you ask.

How does "it necessitates the use of a GSR or polygraph in experiments to prove that I am telepathic." indicate that my belief that that are lying has changed?
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I will try to think. Could you try to come with a simple non-evasive non-verbose answer?

Why do you think everyone lies about receiving your telepathic messages, golfy?

Or differently worded: What motivation could everybody have to lie about receiving your telepathic messages?
 
Golfy-

Exactly why do you think you have telepathic powers? At any time have you sent someone a message telepathically that they received and told you so?
 
wahrheit said:
Not relevant?? Does not compute, does not compute.

The polygraph is one big issue regarding a possible protocol, and you consider the question why everybody is lying to you not relevant?

If the entire world population was not united in one big conspiracy, namely lying to you, the protocol could be as simple and short like three paragraphs.

It is a very relevant question.

It is very relevant, because the fact that nobody can repeat what you transmitted could possibly have a very simple, alternative explanation. One very different from "everybody is just lying, I know I can do it."
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Read the question, read the answer to the question, read what it is saying, not what you think it is saying.

golfy
 
jond said:
Golfy-

Exactly why do you think you have telepathic powers? At any time have you sent someone a message telepathically that they received and told you so?
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Please read the posts, you will find out the answer is a reasonable "Yes".

golfy
 
golfy said:
Please read the posts, you will find out the answer is a reasonable "Yes".

golfy
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You mean like this:

I do have a friend in Germany who has in the past repeated words to me that I am thinking. I asked him to say the number I was thinking which was between 1 and 20 and was a plural word like twenty fives, twenty sixes etc. He immediately said I was thinking of twelves or thirteens (does thirteens sound like twelves?) and I said I was thinking of twelves as my Dr is Dr Twelves.
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Not a reasonable yes. Not even close to reasonable. Why do you think everyone is lying in the tests? What reason would they have to lie? Isn't it more reasonable to conclude that you do not possess telepathic abilities?
 
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