Army Strong

[Nosi]

Thanks for the elaborations you two.

As for the "Army strong" campaign.
My experience with the requirement videos of my last company suggest that balanced reporting is of rather low priority compared to making a nice show. We looked at the video on board, and had trouble not laughing at the disconnect between reality and the pretty pictures.(Like a 1./2. engineer in a clean boiler suit)

The danish army took it to humorous extreme in their campaign for officers school and promised a 800HP company car.
(Under a picture of a Leopard 1.)

You can see the disconnect between reality vs 'pretty pictures'. So can I, and JihadJane too. Unfortunately, many kids graduate highschool, turning 18 years old, with out this reality vs pictures discernment ability, thus the "myth of the Armed Forces" that has many Liberals in a right twist.

Critical thinking is rarely taught in America's schools, (thus we have Troofers able to pull in their flocks). The military will run into people gullible enough to buy a cheeseball with four plastic wheels from a salesman calling it a Porsche with a slick enough pitch in many highschools. What's keeping the armed forces from becoming overrun by fools?

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

But the ones that are?

I'll tell you what I think

Regardless of their political views- they took the same oath, serve the same government, take the same risks I do.

They are my brothers and sisters in arms. They are on "my" team and I theirs

We all fight for their RIGHT to have, hold and express their views as they see fit

I have the same view of races other than mine, sexual preference or whatnot

Thats why we are "ARMY STRONG" because we RISE ABOVE the trivial matters you civilians thrive on

 

[back2basics]

I'll tell you what I think

Regardless of their political views- they took the same oath, serve the same government, take the same risks I do.

They are my brothers and sisters in arms. They are on "my" team and I theirs

We all fight for their RIGHT to have, hold and express their views as they see fit

I have the same view of races other than mine, sexual preference or whatnot

Thats why we are "ARMY STRONG" because we RISE ABOVE the trivial matters you civilians thrive on

Well that's good. Just checking. Better get back to some trivial matters.

 

[oldhat]

Thats why we are "ARMY STRONG" because we RISE ABOVE the trivial matters you civilians thrive on

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[LONGTABBER PE]

Not really. Just wondering what LONGTABBER thinks of the liberals that fight alongside him. Cause he has some serious hate going on towards the version of liberals in his mind.

More of the liberal baiting going on

I disagree so that means I must ' seriously hate"

I love the way you prove my point for me. It makes my life much easier.

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

facepalm.jpg

I know it hurts to facepalm yourself- I'm sure you will eventually get used to it

Dont break your nose

 

[Toke]

What's keeping the armed forces from becoming overrun by fools?

I have it on anecdote that that is a serious problem for the us army.
The volunteer instead of draft means that a lot of the volunteers are not the sharpest ones in the drawer and that the training are adjusted for it.
It makes for specializations to an extent where doing something not included in training is more or less impossible.
Ok, some of the anecdotes stem from the difference between a small and a large military. The smaller can allow initiative at a lower level without falling apart.

 

[back2basics]

More of the liberal baiting going on

I disagree so that means I must ' seriously hate"

I love the way you prove my point for me. It makes my life much easier.

I don't have the time to pull together a collection of quotes (I have trivial matters to attended to) but you do come across as hating liberals, I am sorry you just do.

EDIT : Sorry i should have said, you come across as having a lot of hatred for a strawman you call liberals. (the military hating mentaly ill kind)

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

I don't have the time to pull together a collection of quotes (I have trivial matters to attended to) but you do come across as hating liberals, I am sorry you just do.

let me call you a WAAAAAAAAAAmbulance

 

[back2basics]

let me call you a WAAAAAAAAAAmbulance

Oh it doesn't bother me in the slightest, i just find you interesting. I wonder how you were created is all.

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

Oh it doesn't bother me in the slightest, i just find you interesting. I wonder how you were created is all.

Likewise

 

[Toke]

LONGTABBER PE,
Liberal is a wide definition.
Those evil socialists like me are not all of them.
JJ may not make sense to you, or to me, but there are wide range of subjects where people to the left of your perceived stance would make sense to you.

 

[back2basics]

Likewise

Me the liberal?

Cause you would be wrong. I guess anybody who disagrees with you is a liberal?

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

Me the liberal?

Cause you would be wrong. I guess anybody who disagrees with you is a liberal?

I'm not wrong and I dont do baiting

Would you like some cheese to go with your whine?

If you have a logical thought- lets see it

 

[paximperium]

LONGTABBER PE,
Liberal is a wide definition.
Those evil socialists like me are not all of them.
JJ may not make sense to you, or to me, but there are wide range of subjects where people to the left of your perceived stance would make sense to you.

Seconded. I'm a liberal in almost all definitions and JJ is not even a close representation of what most Liberals I know are.

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

LONGTABBER PE,
Liberal is a wide definition.
Those evil socialists like me are not all of them.
JJ may not make sense to you, or to me, but there are wide range of subjects where people to the left of your perceived stance would make sense to you.

Thats fine, you are also NOT a US citizen or have a hand in US politics.
It does have a "wide" definition so which one do you want to discuss?

 

[Toke]

Thats fine, you are also NOT a US citizen or have a hand in US politics.
It does have a "wide" definition so which one do you want to discuss?

None in particular.
Just realize that the liberal label can mean just about anything.

Like when I think of Paximperium as a right winger
He does definitely not agree.

Ohh, how about healthcare.
My country got a UHC that have been starved by a right wing government, but still give better outcomes than yours at half the price

 

[paximperium]

None in particular.
Just realize that the liberal label can mean just about anything.

Like when I think of Paximperium as a right winger
He does definitely not agree.

Touche.
I lean right when it comes to killing enemies and military matters but lean heavily to the left when it comes to almost all other issues.

Ohh, how about healthcare.
My country got a UHC that have been starved by a right wing government, but still give better outcomes than yours at half the price

Kind of off topic?
How about the "liberal" tendency to oppose the military?

 

[Toke]

Touche.
I lean right when it comes to killing enemies and military matters but lean heavily to the left when it comes to almost all other issues.
Kind of off topic?
How about the "liberal" tendency to oppose the military?

Some (JJ) may have watched too much Dr Strangelove, personally I believe the military is under political control and any complain should be directed to politicians.

That is, generals are not evil warmongering beasts, it is the politicians that have wrong ideas of what can be achieved by military means.

 

[Toke]

One example would be the free marked paradise of Iraq.
Some deranged politicians decided to dismantle most of the country's industry by exposing it to the rest of the world. The massive unemployment were not really conductive to a peaceful reorganization of the country.