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What ever link you see is only obvious to you. It would seem that you have very little knowledge about the mindset of the people that serve in the U.S. armed forces, you walk a very fine line when you post about LT and his "demonizing so many sections of society."
 
Quad4_72 said:
Out of curiosity where are you from and what exactly are your credentials that allow you to define someone's coping mechanism for killing from a few internet posts?
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And to quote myself back2basics, if you don't mind I would like an answer to these questions.
 
back2basics said:
Well defined psycological studies and in fact your training tell me that. You are told not to demonize the enemy.
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Have you studied current psychological aspects that have been researched reviewed, adopted, and implemented into the two primary theaters (and elsewhere)? A form of it has been with the armed services since the 60's and 70's and is constantly updated down to the physical environment the individual soldier is subjected to. The modern (current-and-adapting) method has proven much more adequate comparing previous generations. It is taken so seriously that unless a crime/major infraction has been committed, lives are in danger, etc. I will never see the personnel files no matter how many stars I wear. It would be a ****fest to obtain them even on servicemen and women under my direct command and would be at the risk of my career.
 
ElectricVoodoo said:
Have you studied current psychological aspects that have been researched reviewed, adopted, and implemented into the two primary theaters (and elsewhere)? A form of it has been with the armed services since the 60's and 70's and is constantly updated down to the physical environment the individual soldier is subjected to. The modern (current-and-adapting) method has proven much more adequate comparing previous generations. It is taken so seriously that unless a crime/major infraction has been committed, lives are in danger, etc. I will never see the personnel files no matter how many stars I wear. It would be a ****fest to obtain them even on servicemen and women under my direct command and would be at the risk of my career.[/QUOTE

I am just talking about your training.
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back2basics said:
Not making a diagnosis. I am expressing an obvious link. I am not trying to do myself any favours, just trying to explain why this patriot could demonize so many sections of society so easily.
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Who did I "demonise"? and how

I'm of the opinion you cannot distinguish your head from your ass- prove me wrong
 
Audible Click said:
What ever link you see is only obvious to you. It would seem that you have very little knowledge about the mindset of the people that serve in the U.S. armed forces, you walk a very fine line when you post about LT and his "demonizing so many sections of society."
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Click on his name, search his posts, read.
 
I have been reading his posts* and in fact have read all of his posts and have PM'd him a few times since he joined the forum. Why don't you start reading posts and use some critical thinking rather then have some sort of knee jerk reaction as to how military people think.

* In every sub forum.
 
LONGTABBER PE said:
sure, please do so

Want some more cheese?
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Once again, thanks. And using it as a coping mechanism is something that makes you a good person, doing his job to the best of his abilities. I just object to you taking it further and demonizing everybody you disagree with. Some people don't need to do that, but that doesn't make them better. In some instances it makes them cold hard killers. You certainly are not one. You may be great at you job, but this conversation is more about how people cope. You are not a cold hard killer, no matter how much you like to think of yourself as one.
 
back2basics said:
I am just talking about your training.
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It is no longer considered training when you apply and speak of the coping mechanisms of soldiers in daily combat and to those who live on bases where the flags fly at half-mast everyday. That is when you fall back on your training so you can greatly increase the odds of surviving another day.
 
back2basics said:
Once again, thanks. And using it as a coping mechanism is something that makes you a good person, doing his job to the best of his abilities. I just object to you taking it further and demonizing everybody you disagree with. Some people don't need to do that, but that doesn't make them better. In some instances it makes them cold hard killers. You certainly are not one. You may be great at you job, but this conversation is more about how people cope. You are not a cold hard killer, no matter how much you like to think of yourself as one.
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Talk about patronizing nonsense.
 
back2basics said:
Once again, thanks. And using it as a coping mechanism is something that makes you a good person, doing his job to the best of his abilities. I just object to you taking it further and demonizing everybody you disagree with. Some people don't need to do that, but that doesn't make them better. In some instances it makes them cold hard killers. You certainly are not one. You may be great at you job, but this conversation is more about how people cope. You are not a cold hard killer, no matter how much you like to think of yourself as one.
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Excuse you?

You need a 'checkup" from the "neckup"
 
paximperium said:
One of the fellas standing in front of bases with signs protesting war? Sounds like no credential to me.
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War is necessary. I have never protested a war. But so is training. And some people seem to have forgotten that. Or discarded it due to necessity. As has been admitted you people are arguing against your training. Your ranking officers would reprimand you for that, no?
 
Allow me to weigh in.

For the record, I'm a captain in the Army, currently in the reserves, and in command of a headquarters and headquarters company of a logistics unit. I also have a bachelor's degree in psychology, which, from what I can tell, gives me a little more background than back2basics over here in "armchair psychology".

Longtabber is not demonizing anyone from what I can tell. He has justifiable contempt for certain persons who act in certain ways, but by no means has he "demonized" anyone in this thread other than terrorists. I will admit he's a tad blunt in his posts and has little tolerance for apologists (in my perspective, mind you), but there is no demonization going on.

And to the point about military training; personnel who are military trained often go on to earn better salaries and have better jobs than many of their contemporaries, as most companies recognize and respect the training the military provides as relevant to many aspects of life. As a case in point, I was hired in my company at a level two levels higher than I would have been hired at if I had not had four years of active duty training, and I currently make nearly twice as much as two of my siblings who are extremely close to me in age. Military training is exemplary and imparts ideals that everyone can appreciate.
 
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