armed "not terrorists" storm government building in Oregon

[Travis]

So some armed people are terrorizing up in Oregon. They don't like current political policy and hope, through acts of terror, to get their way. Screw that democracy thing. But remember, just because they are doing terrorist things, they aren't because they don't pray to Mecca.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/03/us/oregon-wildlife-refuge-protest/index.html

Bipedal sack of squirrels posing as a human, Ammon Bundy, even laid out their case.

Ammon Bundy said the group in Oregon was armed, but said he would not describe it as a militia. Bundy declined to say how many people were occupying the building.
"We are not terrorists," he said. "We are concerned citizens and realize we have to act if we want to pass along anything to our children."

See, they said they aren't terrorists! That totally means they aren't! They just want to create a better world where government has no say on what is done with publicly owned land. Those guns are just to protect themselves from meany types that think we should have some say on what happens on public land.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Hey, militias are sacred!

 

[C_Felix]

It seems the armed protesters* have taken over the building.








*or terrorists, depending on their skin color.

 

[Garrison]

And much like other terrorists the people in whose name they claim to be acting want nothing to do with them:

But despite the protest Dwight Hammond says he and his son plan to report peacefully to prison on Monday.

His lawyers told Associated Press "neither Ammon Bundy nor anyone within his group/organisation speak for the Hammond Family".

bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35216879

 

[magellan]

Are they occupying more like the heros of the maidan in kiev or like the vile terrorists of donetsk?

 

[quadraginta]

I hope they just station some guards around the building and wait until they get hungry.

I'd suggest pointing some speakers at them and playing nothing but Anita Bryant recordings 24/7, but that would probably be cruel and unusual.

Certainly to any surrounding wildlife.

 

[Upchurch]

It seems the armed protesters* have taken over the building.




*or terrorists, depending on their skin color.

I can't wait to hear Fox News call them "thugs"

 

[applecorped]

It seems the armed protesters* have taken over the building.








*or terrorists, depending on their skin color.

Is McVeigh no longer considered a terrorist?

Also, who is being terrorized in this case, the building?

 

[NoahFence]

Play Muslim prayers over the speakers

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Play Muslim prayers over the speakers

That would be racist.

 

[William Parcher]

How can they be terrorists if they are not committing terrorist acts?

 

[ehcks]

How can they be terrorists if they are not committing terrorist acts?

You got that backwards. They are committing terrorist acts, but not being called terrorists.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

A couple of bombs will solve the problem.

 

[tyr_13]

So they are protesting the government infringing on people's right to...poach deer on public land then light 130 acres ablaze?

I don't think that's actually a right anyone has. I'd like to test that again though. How valuable is that public building anyway?

 

[ehcks]

So they are protesting the government infringing on people's right to...poach deer on public land then light 130 acres ablaze?

I don't think that's actually a right anyone has. I'd like to test that again though. How valuable is that public building anyway?

It might have more to do with the court case. The trial judge sentenced them to just one year, when federal law has a minimum sentence for arson on federal land of five years. It was appealed to a federal court, that extended the sentence to that minimum of five years.

These are the same family that claimed they didn't have to pay BLM for land use because it was Nevada's land and they don't recognize the federal government's power.

The whole thing's not just terrorism, but also sedition.

 

[Wolrab]

If I go sit in my neighbor's shed does that make me a terrorist? This sounds more like a sit in with guns. Are guns alowed on the property?

 

[Ladewig]

Bundy (fils):

"People need to be aware that we've become a system where government is actually claiming and using and defending people's rights, and they are doing that against the people."​

Why is defending people's rights a bad thing? Is this about defending the rights of religious or racial minorities from people who would deny them of their rights? Or did he simply misspeak? Or is he talking about something I missed?

Also, if you intentionally burn 130 acres of federal land without getting permission, aren't you guilty of arson even if your intent were to remove plant growth in an effort to protect your property (as the ranchers allege)?

 

[BobTheCoward]

So they are protesting the government infringing on people's right to...poach deer on public land then light 130 acres ablaze?

I don't think that's actually a right anyone has. I'd like to test that again though. How valuable is that public building anyway?

This is more of a collective rights issue. It's like native American land disputes. Western states are equal semi sovereigns to the eastern states but the federal government claims ownership of most of the land. It is unjust occupation.

 

[William Parcher]

The whole thing's not just terrorism, but also sedition.

How can it be terrorism when it's an "occupy" protest? They haven't hurt anyone and there's nobody but them there anyway as the building is vacant because of the holidays.

 

[tyr_13]

This is more of a collective rights issue. It's like native American land disputes. Western states are equal semi sovereigns to the eastern states but the federal government claims ownership of most of the land. It is unjust occupation.

Wait, that's their argument?