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Are Truthers finally losing it?

Basically parky you fantasize a world where we have only two types of person:

-the average pravda or prisonplanet mindless trolling nutty truther;

-the ones like you on the other extreme (self labelled as debunker), who will do not ever, and when I say ever, it's because it becomes clear from your line of reasoning that you will never be convinced that MAYBE, not every aspect of the official accounts are true. And you will keep keep coming back to the same forums and insulting , flaming, with poor reasoning and in a negative and agressive way the fantasized opposite. It's like the freak show , man. Tbh I would put both in the same sack. It's a twofold bogus stage you try to set up , not only you but many posters here.

Then there's your giant straw toy. You make up this set and attack your extremist truther made of straw. I'm really sorry to tell you, but that is not real world reasoning.

Look, get yourself a little in touch with a more clever and less flamboyant way of seeing the big picture. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5674472&postcount=55

He said it all, can't say how much amazing are Rolfe's english and synthesis skills.
 
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any bets on when the next Truther act of violence will be? I say within 4 weeks.
 
fallout said:
Basically what almost everyone does here all the time. Check your OP for instance, it's a giant farm worth of straw.
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Actually, he's just asking questions...

(Which I suppose answers parky76's question about whether or not you know what a strawman argument is.)
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
Actually, he's just asking questions...

(Which I suppose answers parky76's question about whether or not you know what a strawman argument is.)
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Well if you choose not to see the straw man in the OP, I can't really help you anymore. It's all made up of straw.
 
fallout said:
Well if you choose not to see the straw man in the OP, I can't really help you anymore. It's all made up of straw.
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You haven't explained how parky76 misrepresented the truth movement's position, though. In fact, you explicitly agreed with his "tipping point" comment.

You don't seem to know what you're doing.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
You haven't explained how parky76 misrepresented the truth movement's position, though.
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And you agree with the picture he painted in the OP?


Cl1mh4224rd said:
In fact, you explicitly agreed with his "tipping point" comment.

You don't seem to know what you're doing.
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Yep, the tipping point it's agreed. The situation at some point will probably not hold anymore. This movement will have to be dealt with. It's pretty delicate atm. Only time will tell though.

I personally dislike the straw tone in the OP linking this guy's idealist suicide with the core of the ideology of what the called truthers might be aiming. It's beyond silly. I wonder if he truly believes that some sort of revolution has begun or he is just trolling which would be nothing new.
 
alienentity said:
It's been a year now since I got involved with the issues of 9/11 Truth, and I've chosen to keep my identity private, largely out of concern for the mental stability of a lot of the truthers I've encountered.

I've received messages like this one on my youtube channel, which should be a reminder to all of us of the kind of rhetoric, anger, and general mental state of a lot of these people:

'I repeat: YOU ARE A ****ING TRAITOR! I DON''T LIKE TRAITORS.
ANYONE WHO HAS LOOKED AT ALL THE EVIDENCE ABOUT 9/11 CAN COME AWAY WITH NO OTHER CONCLUSION THAT IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB FROM START TO FINISH.

YOU DENY THE VERY FACTS THAT PROVE IT! LIKE THE ADMITTED - BY NIST NO LESS - FREE-FALL SPEED OF THE COLLAPSES OF ALL THREE BUILDINGS! THIS FACT ALONE PROVES BEYOND ANY DOUBT THAT IT WAS CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.

SO YOU DENY THAT FACT AND LIE YOUR SILLY ASS OFF THINKING YOUR KOOL-AID DRINKING FOLLOWERS AT THE "AMAZING RANDI" MESSAGE BOARD WILL DRINK IT! HA! WHEN WE TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK I WANT TO SEE YOU PUT ON TRIAL FOR AIDING AND ABETTING TREASON, MY FINE FEATHERED FRIEND!

I WANT TO SEE YOU BEHIND BARS SERVING A LIFE STRETCH AT MARION! YOU GOT THAT? I DON'T LIKE MY RELATIVES OR ANY OTHER AMERICANS BEING MURDERED BY YOUR BANKER FRIENDS SO THEY CAN HAVE THEIR WARS AND POLICE STATE. GOT THAT, BUBBA? GO TO HELL!
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Jeez,you sure know how to make friends and influence people AE. You should obviously try to be a better person.
 
bill smith said:
Jeez,you sure know how to make friends and influence people AE. You should obviously try to be a better person.
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You never had it, just like 911 truth. You post lies and delusions and by doing so support murderers. Why do you support delusions on 911 made up by morons like Gage? 911 truth gave a new conference and they were identified as crazies. lol, 8 years of failure and you present lies when you need physics. Just like 911 truth bringing lies, hearsay, and delusions to a fact fight.
 
I seriously think they are not ALL dangerous.

But I think a few are very dangerous, organized to a degree, and absolutely fit the definition of Domestic Terrorists.

As a result, I seriously think that all of these groups ought to be under particularly close surveillance and that in particular any weapons purchases background checks for those in these groups should be immediately red-flagged.
 
911 truth will never start an organized campaign of violence. Individual paranoid schizos may commit acts from time to time in isolation but the AJ's and Burmas's of the world don't want their cash cow to be hampered by having FBI and ATF ACTUALLY breathing down there necks, instead of just pretending to be notorious so kids will like you.
 
parky76 said:
We had a Truther try to kill two policemen outside the Pentagon on Wednesday. And in response to this act, we have Truthers in their Truther forums, accusing the govt. of staging an attack..and threatening violence against the govt.

And even here at JREF, we have Truthers threatening deadly violence against those who challenge them:
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What are you trying to say? Yes, some truth-seekers resort to violence to try and bring about change, but 99% of the movement is peaceful.

Peaceful resistance is the most poweful resistance.

Learn from Ghandi...

Question authority, use science to base your beliefs, and always resist corruption peacefully.

-Abe
 
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