Are There Any Straight Lines In Nature?

[tbrookin]

It's hard to find good sources on the web. An article in a scientific journal would probably have more pictures, but unfortunately scientific journals are usually pricey, and for that reason don't have free web content. "Science News" is like the "Cliff's Notes" of science, so you get one picture.

There are several sites around the world with similar features (if you read carefully, it mentions that). I would say that the article is lengthy, but the theory itself is relatively simple, and has the capability to explain the variations in these patterns. That article certainly didn't prove anything, but it seems that the geologists who investigate this phenomenon (and posess all the relevant facts) think that this theory is the best explanation.

 

[Kilik]

An issue raised on this thread was the question of, is there a third pyramid out there with the same base as Egypt and mexico's pyramids.

Chinese and Tibetan pyramid, from here-
http://www.crystalinks.com/pyramidchina.html
"Hausdorf reports: There are over 100 pyramids, made of clay, that have become nearly stone hard over the centuries. Many are damaged by erosion or farming. One pyramid is as large as the Pyramid of the Sun of Teotihuacan in Mexico (which is as large as the Great Pyramid of Giza). Most are flat topped, some have small temples on top. There is a stone pyramid in Shandong, about 50 feet tall. Some incorporate the golden proportion. "



Does anyone know more about this. Of course, I am not a pyramid researcher and cannot go to china( not that they would likely let anyone research it), so I cannot say this site is for sure accurate, or if the bases are the same, but I sure would suspect it could be.

But I can tell you, and promise to you, that the people and culture that lived in that area, are very concerned with Feng Shui and astronomy in their practices, lives, and culture.

Even scientists consider Yonaguni to be a genuine man influenced underwater site

 

[Nucular]

Trouble is, with (say) hundreds (or maybe thousands?) of pyramids scattered over the planet, and all of them necessarily built to approximately the same proportions (else they fall over, look at some of the ruined pyramids throughout the world, or the hastily-corrected 'bent pyramid' at Dashur), you're obviously going to get some with the same dimensions at their base.

It's like the Orion hypothesis of the Giza pyramids - as some annoying sceptic on a documentary I saw said, if you sprinkled some seeds on a table, then looked for three or four in a pattern which resembled a constellation, you're going to find them.

Of course, I am not a pyramid researcher and cannot go to china( not that they would likely let anyone research it), so I cannot say this site is for sure accurate, or if the bases are the same, but I sure would suspect it could be.

Why would you think that?

But I can tell you, and promise to you, that the people and culture that lived in that area, are very concerned with Feng Shui and astronomy in their practices, lives, and culture.

I can't decide which response to give here - we could go with "So?", or we could go with "How do you know?", whichever you prefer

Even scientists consider Yonaguni to be a genuine man influenced underwater site

Which scientists?â„¢

 

[Donks]

An issue raised on this thread was the question of, is there a third pyramid out there with the same base as Egypt and mexico's pyramids.

They don't have the same base. Mexico's is a bit smaller. And much shorter, heightwise.

 

[Kilik]

I don't think sprinkling sand and connecting it to constellations is the same.

In that case the only one connecting it was you and you sprinkled the sand so you know it was random not set up that way intentionally.

The reason I suspect the pyramid in China would be celestially aligned is because other pyramids definitely are. The sky is used to measure and build the monuments I think. The Pyramids of the Sun and Moon in mexico are named after a moon and star, I think the whole layout is said to be 1 100th of the earth's surface and astronomically aligned.

At Giza the pyramids are along an north/south axis aren't they?

Between China and Tibet is the Kunlun mountain range, of some of the largest mountains in the world. For the past 2,000 years and probably longer than that those that lived in that area were Taoist monks who routinely live to be 100, 110, 120 years old. Many of their traditions are concerned with celestial alignments and are practiced starting on a north/south alignment, or turning 45 degrees off the north/south alignement.

I saw on a show that Dr. Kimura is one of the highest authorities in history and geology in Japan. He has brought in many experts in different fields to examine the Yonaguni megalith. It was pretty conclusively determined that it's been shaped by humans.

ANother I saw on the net is Dr. Robert Schoch

 

[Donks]

The Pyramids of the Sun and Moon in mexico are named after a moon and star, I think the whole layout is said to be 1 100th of the earth's surface and astronomically aligned.

I hate to inject facts into people's wild fantasies, but the original names of the pyramids is unknown. The current names were given to them by the Aztecs when they discovered the city, by then in ruins.

 

[stup_id]

Excelent Response!
I'll just add to clarify that Teotihuacan pyramids (which are the ones I think everyone's refering as Mexico's pyramids) weren't built by aztecs, in fact the aztec's historical record and part of their cosmogony included Teotihuacan as a mistery and they believed it was probably built by gods

Since it was already abandoned when they passed near Teotihuacan in their way to Mexico City's Valley

 

[jan]

And furthermore, if I try to count the straight lines in N, I see ten of them.

 

[Anders]

I can't really think of any truly straight lines or edges in nature.

Hair perhaps? If you look at a hair under a microscope it has anything but a straight edge. Some trees appear straight as they grow but they have bark and branches etc all over it.

Perhaps something microscopic is straight? Maybe it's staring me in the face and I just haven't noticed.

Things hanging from trees in very slim strings. I saw one the other day: A larva hanging in some slime string, trying to hitch a ride from a passing animal, like a human. That was a really straight line.

 

[King of the Americas]

I'm nothing, if not consistent.

 

[Ysidro]

I count 6.

I count 16.

 

[casebro]

Sandstone, I assume.

That is reminiscent of different sedimentary layers. Laid down at different times, with different hardness to each layer. Then eroded to the various 'steps' of the layers.

I wonder how many of the steps are at the same elevation, within the slope of the effluvium, meaning the same sedimentary layer?

There sure are plenty of sand stone 'reefs' here on the So Cal coast, pretty much flat on the tops, and at the same 'altitude' below high tide level. Makes me wonder if the "So Cal Reefers" aren't from an ancient civilization?

 

[realpaladin]

I'm nothing, if not consistent.

Another thread resurrected from the dead

You must also be a voodoo priest!

 

[macdoc]

Light mostly ......

 

[blutoski]

The concept of "straight" is a mathematical one made up by people. It also happens that some very natural phenomena do approximate that definition.

That's a very old philosophical debate: are mathematical principles such as geometry invented or discovered?

A recent article: [Science News: STILL DEBATING WITH PLATO - Where do mathematical objects live?]

Likewise "round." One could ask "Does nature make anything really circular?" I would refer to pond ripples.

Some people would argue that they don't come out completely round, due to small imperfections such as the effect of wind or particles on the surface, but sure.

By the same token, I think it's arguable that photons travel in a straight line, but the universe distorts, so their paths appear non-linear.

Perhaps also applies to a momentum-based trajectory for any moving object with mass.

 

[shadron]

Path of a neutron/photon/neutrino in the absence of encountering another particle.

 

[macdoc]

Crystal lattices depending on your scale of viewing....

 

[Ashles]

Pretty good pics here:

http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni_schoch1.html

Bah, it's one of those annoying websites where you can't just copy and paste the text.

You have to go to all the trouble of clicking "source" and then copying it.

 

[lylfyl]

Soapy bubbles will form a flat plane wherever two of them touch. And a plane's got TONS of straight lines.

Are soap bubbles natural?

 

[Evilgiraffe]

'fraid not.

Random temperature variations between bubbles will lead to one bubble having a higher internal pressure than its neighbours. The interface will be ever so slightly curved.