Are the freemasons demonic?

NorthMass said:
I don't really know anything about them, some say they are good people others like this site say they are satanic, I have no clue lolz.
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well, one of my uncles is a Mason and he's kind of a jerk sometimes, but I wouldn't call him Satanic... I think that just makes him human...
 
JoeyDonuts said:
Oh really? So instead of actually trying to learn who they are and what they do, you automatically jump on the "demonic" thing?

How many freemasons do you know? There's a couple on this board, I'd imagine they'll post soon if they feel up to it.

Besides, for them to be demonic - demons would have to exist. I don't suppose you have a good reason for believing in that possibility?

And for future reference - YouTube isn't a reliable source for anything but 1980's music videos and cats doing funny things.
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In all fairness, I have got a number of good 1960s/70s music segments and a couple of TV shows I could not find from other sources on youtube.

:)

And, devil worshippers or not, they make great jars!!!
 
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I grew up assuming the Shriners were in it half for the fun (carousing at conventions and driving flying-carpet go-karts in parades) and half to raise funds for their hospitals. I did not know they had to work their way up in the Masons to qualify. This knowledge was the first chink in my suspicions that the Masons were bent on World Domination, since their predecessors like Hitler had used tanks and bombers, not go-carts.
 
dropzone said:
I grew up assuming the Shriners were in it half for the fun (carousing at conventions and driving flying-carpet go-karts in parades) and half to raise funds for their hospitals. I did not know they had to work their way up in the Masons to qualify. This knowledge was the first chink in my suspicions that the Masons were bent on World Domination, since their predecessors like Hitler had used tanks and bombers, not go-carts.
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Membership in the Shriners formally required either being a 32nd degree mason or a Knight Templar, but it was dropped a few years ago. Now any 3rd degree mason can become a Shriner. So there is no working there way up...and to be honest being a Knights Templar or 32nd degree mason doesn't require working your way up either...although maybe there is some sort of internal ranking system for who gets to drive the go-karts ;)
 
LightinDarkness said:
Dresses?

Hey! Just because we have a Scottish Rite doesn't mean we run around in kilts! :D
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Honest question, LID: what is the dress code at meetings? Suit and tie? Business casual? Shorts and tees?

I honestly have no idea.

Follow-up question: are y'all feuding with the shriners? Is it like a bloods and crips thing?
 
zaphod2016 said:
Honest question, LID: what is the dress code at meetings? Suit and tie? Business casual? Shorts and tees?

I honestly have no idea.

Follow-up question: are y'all feuding with the shriners? Is it like a bloods and crips thing?
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This depends on the lodge, really. My lodge is suit and tie - business casual at the very least (because we're aware some people don't have fancy duds). Some older lodges - and most lodges in the UK I'm told - are tuxedo-required. So yeah, it's a toss-up depending on your lodge.

As for the Shriners - well, the Shrine is a Masonic organization. Its proper name is "Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine"; and if the name gives you the impression that it's some kind of joke, that's because it is. The Shrine, although it does serious charity work, is designed to be a bit more laid-back and fun-loving than the typical Blue Lodge. It's like Masonic recess. There's another appendant Masonic organization formed for much the same purpose. It's called the "Mystic Order of Veiled Prophets of the Enchanted Realm" - it's short name is "the Grotto".
 
zaphod2016 said:
Honest question, LID: what is the dress code at meetings? Suit and tie? Business casual? Shorts and tees?

I honestly have no idea.

Follow-up question: are y'all feuding with the shriners? Is it like a bloods and crips thing?
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Checkmite is right on with his answers. It really varies between lodges. His lodge is formal, for example, while my home lodge has members that show up wearing tshirts and flip flops (and some also only show up in business attire). It would probably offend the sensibilities of my more formal UGLE brethren, but my lodge doesn't really have a dress code because many of its members work blue collar jobs and wouldn't be able to make it to the meetings on time if they had to go home first and change into business attire. We still dress up for big yearly events like the officer ceremonies. I'm not big into playing dress up since I have to for my job, so I made sure to join a lodge that didn't place a value on it - but other lodges have pretty strict dress codes.

While the Shriners are a masonic organization chiefly used for "fun" and charity, there has been some internal strife. Some Shriners were recently found guilty of doing some pretty horrific things (participating in human sex slave trafficking) while at a Shriners meeting. Now, this doesn't mean the Shrine would ever condone or support such a thing - the leaders of the Shrine are as abhorred about it as everyone else - but the fact that it took place at a Shrine meeting just feeds anti-masonic sentiment and yellow journalism. It enables people to easily paint all masons with a broad brush when they read about it, even though the "masons" in question were thrown out and condemned by every masonic organization they were affiliated with.

There is also a long standing dispute between the side orders and blue lodges. Many members who are active in the blue lodge (1st-3rd degrees) get rather annoyed at people who join just to go on to a side order and never show up again at their home lodge. Shrine members are known to recruit friends who do this, which has lead to serious internal discussions on both sides about breaking the ties between the Shrine and freemasonry. Although the Shrine is a great charitable organization and its charity is reflective of masonic values, some masons feel like the intense spotlight on the Shriners hospitals takes away from all the other masonic charities that blue lodges support.
 
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zaphod2016 said:
Honest question, LID: what is the dress code at meetings? Suit and tie? Business casual? Shorts and tees?

I honestly have no idea.
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When I moved from the midwest to the southwest the dress code was very different (much more casual), but really can vary between lodges in the same area also.

Also, our lodge is growing with many new young people coming in. Many because of a reletive that is already a member, but a few on thier own.

DDWW
 
I don't know much about Freemasonry, but I do know two things:

1) They advertise open houses on the radio to attract new members to their lodges. Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't sound like a particularly wise strategy for a shady, satanic organization bent on world domination.

2) I know two guys from work who are masons, including a guy who sits in the cube next to mine. If there are two people on the entire Earth less likely to be involved in any diabolical organization than these two, I have yet to meet them.
 
A Mason working in a cubicle? No offense to other office workers, but that's not the sort of role I envisaged the dark masters of the world taking on.
 
Sledge said:
A Mason working in a cubicle? No offense to other office workers, but that's not the sort of role I envisaged the dark masters of the world taking on.
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Most people wouldn't picture one of the "dark masters of the world" sitting in his home office editing a WWII vet PSA but it happens. :)

Maybe I'm just a dark master of "It's a Small World". :D
 
Kinda makes me wish I was a Mason. They must have such a laugh reading about all the stuff they're supposed to be doing. Actually, I wonder if the entertainment value is why people who are supposed to be secretly ruling the world don't speak out against those theories.
 
Sledge said:
Kinda makes me wish I was a Mason. They must have such a laugh reading about all the stuff they're supposed to be doing. Actually, I wonder if the entertainment value is why people who are supposed to be secretly ruling the world don't speak out against those theories.
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We do.

One time at a gun show ran into a fellow selling books on all sorts of world wide conspiracies. NWO, Skull & Crossbones, etc. He was telling me (and showing me the books to back it up) that the Freemasons were behind the NWO and were taking over the world.

I then showed him my ring and said; “Oh, you mean these people?”

Then I thought about having a little fun with him and telling him I would have to report him to our “world wide master” but then thought….gun show….guns…..

Anyway;

Did tell him that Masons have been around for 400 – 3,000 years and if we were going to take over the world we have been pretty bad at it.

Also; John Wayne was a Mason.
 
Do masons still do, you know, masonry? If so, could they fix the brick wall in front of my aunt's house? The mortar's coming all loose.
 
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