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Are Tattoos Proof of a Nazi Genocide?

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Are Tattoos Proof of a Nazi Genocide?

No. The Nazi program of mass murder is supported by other evidence, and lots of it. What the tattoos prove is that someone was a victim of that program.

I hope that clears up your confusion.
 
theprestige said:
No. The Nazi program of mass murder is supported by other evidence, and lots of it. What the tattoos prove is that someone was a victim of that program.
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To be technical, a survivor with a tattoo is "merely" a victim of the concentration camps. Those selected on arrival never had the chance to be tattoo'd
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tatoos are proof of the Holocaust?

is this another Denier strawman?

sure looks like one.
 
I've met a lady with one of these tattoos. My first seeing it sent a frigid shiver down my spine. She didn't seem like a hoaxter to me. Given the fact that there is ample and ongoing evidence that intolerant populations can and will perpetuate such attrocities, I cannot seriously consider any arguments that the Holocaust was a fraud.
 
The operation was slightly painful and extraordinarily rapid: they placed us all in a row[...] we filed past a skilful official armed with a sort of pointed tool with a very short needle.
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To the old hands of the camp, the numbers told everything [...] Everyone will treat with respect the numbers from 30,00 to 80,000: there are only a few hundred left and they represented the few survivals from the Polish ghettos. It is well to watch out in commercial dealings with a 116,000 or 117,000: they now number only about forty, but they represent the Greeks of Salonica, so take care they do not pull the wool over your eyes. As for the high numbers they carry an essential comic air about them, like the words 'freshman' or 'conscript' in ordinary life [...] he can be convinced that leather shoes are distributed at the infirmary, and can be persuaded to run there and leave his bowl of soup 'in your custody'
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[Primo Levi, 'If This Is A Man']
 
Of course the fact that Jews were not suposed have body markings like tattoos would suggest that few of them got tattoos for a "sob story'
 
kedo1981 said:
Of course the fact that Jews were not suposed have body markings like tattoos would suggest that few of them got tattoos for a "sob story'
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The link so thoughtfully provided by mondial shows some pictures of young Israelis with tattoos, so that's that argument...erm...ignored. I generally assume that holocaust revisionists are rabid anti-semites, so you're asking him to imagine that people 'capable' of such a 'hoax' wouldn't be above getting a forbidden tattoo to bolster it. The fact that many of those labelled 'jew' for extermination would have been non-orthodox or to some degree 'not-jewish' in their jewishness, would alas only give him another out - they'd have no qualms about concocting an elaborate tattoo hoax. They'd have considerably less motivation, of course...
 
So the proof that 70 years ago traditional European Jews cooked up a tattoo scheme to make the Germans look bad, is that twenty year old Israelis have unicorns tats on their tits.
Please!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'm pretty sure all the stories of what happened during the Holocaust are "sob stories", since they are pretty depressing. Well, some of them are horrifying, and others are gruesome. But they all get the ol' tear ducts flowing as they make me realize how awful people can be to one another.

Actually, the existence of Holocaust denial is a "sob story" too, under that criteria.
 
It's impressive in just how many different ways the OP gets his 'argument' wrong, and how quick people are to point them all out.


(impressive in entirely different ways, of course)
 
"Just another" Holocaust sob story? Can one assume that the poster of the OP doesn't believe that the Holocaust happened, but is prepared to reconsider that belief if someone can come up with an irrefutable line of evidence based only on the tatoos, currently the only remaining piece of evidence he can't bring himself to discard?

I have another theory as to the nature and beliefs of the poster, but I'd prefer not to risk an infraction.

Dave
 
Mondial said:
But are concentration camp inmates with tattoos proof of mass murder or are they just another holocaust sob story?
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Yes!

SS members were tattooed with their blood group as part of the elite.

Obviously, the Joos were actually revered by Germany and Nazis.
 
Prestige wrote:
What the tattoos prove is that someone was a victim of that program.
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Wouldn't a victim of an extermination program be dead? And not someone alive with a tattoo?
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TSR wrote
To be technical, a survivor with a tattoo is "merely" a victim of the concentration camps.
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Wouldn't a victim be someone killed in a camp as part of the holocaust?
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Slimething wrote
I've met a lady with one of these tattoos. My first seeing it sent a frigid shiver down my spine. She didn't seem like a hoaxter to me.
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No but given the fact she's alive, wouldn't that mean that her tattoo is in fact not proof of a plan to murder Jews?
 
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Budly said:
TSR wrote
To be technical, a survivor with a tattoo is "merely" a victim of the concentration camps.
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Wouldn't a victim be someone killed in a camp as part of the holocaust?
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According to your logic, someone who was locked up in a concentration camp and suffered all corresponding abuse, was not a victim? :jaw-dropp
Budly said:
Slimething wrote
I've met a lady with one of these tattoos. My first seeing it sent a frigid shiver down my spine. She didn't seem like a hoaxter to me.
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No but given the fact she's alive, wouldn't that mean that her tattoo is in fact not proof of a plan to murder Jews?
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It means the Nazis hadn't yet worked her to death. You do know that the Jews who arrived at Auschwitz and were healthy enough, went to the labor camp to be worked to death there?

BTW, how is your research into 1940 boys' fashion going? You went quite silent in your own thread about the photo from the Stroop report. :rolleyes:
 
Budly said:
Prestige wrote:
Wouldn't a victim of an extermination program be dead? And not someone alive with a tattoo?
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TSR wrote
Wouldn't a victim be someone killed in a camp as part of the holocaust?
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Slimething wrote
No but given the fact she's alive, wouldn't that mean that her tattoo is in fact not proof of a plan to murder Jews?
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No, no, and no.

A "victim" of a crime need not be dead; I was the victim of a burglary about fifteen years ago and of an assault about twelve, and I assure you that I'm very much alive.
 
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