Please don’t use the phrase “diddling the kids”, that diminishes and sanitises the severe abuse many of them inflicted on children.
Archbishop of Canterbury resigns
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Carrot Flower King
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George Carey among clergy who could face life ban over John Smyth abuse case
Church of England plans action against former archbishop of Canterbury and nine others after Makin report
www.theguardian.com
Finally, post-Makin, which was already post-Smyth's death, which was already post-everyone knowing fine well what had been going on, the CoE have decided to try to slap a few people's wrists, just to make sure that no-one does anything of this sort again. I mean, we all know how terrible it is to have your wrist slapped decades after your wrong doing, moral failure, covering up of crimes, lack of leadership, avoidance of responsibility, continuation of abuse by siding with or ignoring the perpetrator.
But never mind, as "the church is committed to taking very seriously its response to the findings of the review as well as responding to its recommendations.”
So that's alright then. Aside from how many extra committees and workshops and discussion groups and consultations and letters and all'n'all it will take before they decide that, yes, really, we must be seen to do something? Which you should all have been doing since 1989, when you were given the text of the '89 Children Act and then winge'd for 2 years that you couldn't comply as It Was Too Hard, preventing it being enacted until '91. And all the while the NHS, social services, education and the rest of the public sector parasites were ready to go.
And are you going to get shot of canon law? Y'know, your convenient veil for not doing things? And the fiction of not actually employing people, just giving them money to do a job? Or trying to avoid another set of laws as it is known to the rest of us.
Utter twunts!
Carrot Flower King
Janitor of Lunacy
Justin Welby was too ‘overwhelmed’ by scale of abuse in C of E to take action
In first interview since resigning, former archbishop of Canterbury says more cases were arriving every day and he ‘got it wrong’
www.theguardian.com
Welby is still trying to worm his way out of any responsibility for the whole Smyth thing, making excuses for himself, trying to blame others for expecting too much of him and all the rest.
How very christian of him.
"It was an absolutely overwhelming few weeks.”Justin Welby was too ‘overwhelmed’ by scale of abuse in C of E to take action
In first interview since resigning, former archbishop of Canterbury says more cases were arriving every day and he ‘got it wrong’
Welby is still trying to worm his way out of any responsibility for the whole Smyth thing, making excuses for himself, trying to blame others for expecting too much of him and all the rest.
How very christian of him.
What the hell sort of excuse is that? You had a busy few weeks, so what about the other 12 years? Oh and we expect our leaders to be perfect? Well no we don't, but certainly I expect religious leaders to know that their priests etc. abusing kids is wrong and shouldn't be swept under the carpet. But hey what do I know about these complex, theological issues?
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And he had a staff.
I think you will find that was in his eye.
Carrot Flower King
Janitor of Lunacy
Justin Welby says he forgives serial abuser John Smyth
Welby ‘profoundly ashamed’ of comments he made after resigning as archbishop of Canterbury over scandal
www.theguardian.com
Welby just can't stop digging, can he?
Yet another example of that Old Etonian sense of entitlement and total lack of self-awareness.
If he had put half as much effort into actually sorting out the abuse within his church as he has into being a smug, self-satisfied, self-pitying, self-excusing pathetic excuse for a human being...
It's not up to him.Justin Welby says he forgives serial abuser John Smyth
Welby ‘profoundly ashamed’ of comments he made after resigning as archbishop of Canterbury over scandal
Welby just can't stop digging, can he?
Yet another example of that Old Etonian sense of entitlement and total lack of self-awareness.
If he had put half as much effort into actually sorting out the abuse within his church as he has into being a smug, self-satisfied, self-pitying, self-excusing pathetic excuse for a human being...
Aslo apologies are never sufficient. If they are sincere, they might be accepted by the wronged person. But they don't need to accept apologies.
arthwollipot
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That doesn't mean that they shouldn't be offered.
Gord_in_Toronto
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I caught a bit of this interview on the BBC News channel. He was just being a silly bugger; playing with words. All he had to say (and should have said) was, "What he did was unforgivable."
a_unique_person
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That sounds like reason enough for a visit from the American Vice President and his wife.
SteveAitch
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Hmmm, Have I Got News For You is back this Friday. I wonder if it will get a mention - give Hislop a chance to have a rant...
He also said on the BBC that he has forgiven the rapist, which is a good trick considering he’s dead, while pointlessly adding “but he didn’t abuse me”.Justin Welby was too ‘overwhelmed’ by scale of abuse in C of E to take action
In first interview since resigning, former archbishop of Canterbury says more cases were arriving every day and he ‘got it wrong’
Welby is still trying to worm his way out of any responsibility for the whole Smyth thing, making excuses for himself, trying to blame others for expecting too much of him and all the rest.
How very christian of him.
Does the CofE not have media advisors to tell priests to stop digging deeper holes?
Filippo Lippi
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Might it also be a strict reading of the soppy, "forgiveness" doctrine he follows to reduce dissonance? As if Welby could possibly forgive Smyth for his crimesJustin Welby says he forgives serial abuser John Smyth
Welby ‘profoundly ashamed’ of comments he made after resigning as archbishop of Canterbury over scandal
Welby just can't stop digging, can he?
Yet another example of that Old Etonian sense of entitlement and total lack of self-awareness.
If he had put half as much effort into actually sorting out the abuse within his church as he has into being a smug, self-satisfied, self-pitying, self-excusing pathetic excuse for a human being...
Filippo Lippi
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From the articleJustin Welby says he forgives serial abuser John Smyth
Welby ‘profoundly ashamed’ of comments he made after resigning as archbishop of Canterbury over scandal
Welby just can't stop digging, can he?
Yet another example of that Old Etonian sense of entitlement and total lack of self-awareness.
If he had put half as much effort into actually sorting out the abuse within his church as he has into being a smug, self-satisfied, self-pitying, self-excusing pathetic excuse for a human being...
I was going to google "robustaction" to see if it was some obscure term known only to the devout. Then I realised...
Filippo Lippi
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In related, "allowed evil to flourish," news, Lord Carey was active in the House of Lords in November.
It's great to be governed by such virtuous peopel
It's great to be governed by such virtuous peopel
Probably the same ones that advise Prince Andrew.
Gulliver Foyle
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And I see he saw fit to "forgive" Smyth too. It must be comforting to Smyth's victims to see his biggest protector comforting him.Justin Welby was too ‘overwhelmed’ by scale of abuse in C of E to take action
In first interview since resigning, former archbishop of Canterbury says more cases were arriving every day and he ‘got it wrong’
Welby is still trying to worm his way out of any responsibility for the whole Smyth thing, making excuses for himself, trying to blame others for expecting too much of him and all the rest.
How very christian of him.
"The Anglican Diocese of North Queensland is on the brink of financial collapse as it struggles to pay millions of dollars in compensation to victims of child sexual abuse.
Bishop Keith Joseph has revealed the diocese, which covers more than a third of Queensland, needs to find about $8 million to pay its victims.
The diocese is now preparing a Supreme Court application to formally restructure so it can sell assets to pay the compensation."
www.abc.net.au
Bishop Keith Joseph has revealed the diocese, which covers more than a third of Queensland, needs to find about $8 million to pay its victims.
The diocese is now preparing a Supreme Court application to formally restructure so it can sell assets to pay the compensation."
Church on brink of financial collapse following child sexual abuse claims
The Anglican Diocese of North Queensland is on the brink of financial collapse as it struggles to pay millions in compensation to victims of historic child sexual abuse.
www.abc.net.au