Ed Applying luma curve to photos and footage

[P.J. Denyer]

You weren't asked to determine the origin of the images. You were asked to apply your method to them to determine whether they had been composited, as you claimed it would do.


Most of your 9/11 images are enlargements of a larger image. The enlargement is an important part of the provenance of each image. You applied your method to the entire specimen image. Here's what happens when I apply your method to an enlargement of a portion of this image:


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Halos around every branch! Can you explain why the halos show up in an enlargement but not in the original? Can you explain why the branches now suddenly display the stair-step pattern you claimed in the 9/11 images were indicative of "masking?"

Reposted for the feature that dare not speak it's name.

 

[Mojo]

These are the words

"Which ones have been tampered with."

Mojo. Please take just a few minutes and reread.

Thank you

Try looking at all the posts between that and your eventual response, which explained how you were supposed to do it, and think about the context in which the question was asked.

 

[JayUtah]

Reposted for the feature that dare not speak it's name.

FYI in the new board software, quoting a post does not reveal its content in defiance of that feature.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

FYI in the new board software, quoting a post does not reveal its content in defiance of that feature.

No, but it gives the option to reveal it, the original post is simply absent. I only have one poster on this board on 'that' list and I only even know that they've posted if someone quotes them. It's obvious that the OP is unable to address your criticisms of the tool they are missing, this way they at least know that you are still participating and have the option to try.

 

[sackett]

"Dis one. Dat one." Those are the answers required by the test protocol.

Hell, random guessing would be less dishonest than these scrambled eggs.

 

[Thermal]

Nt1 can see JayUtah's posts. He is feeding them into his Chatty for analysis, and says Chatty is impressed with JayUtah's posts. Pretty sure we can dispense with the "Iggy Excuse" as bull ◊◊◊◊. Nt1 can see them, and the firm spanking they deliver.

And the Photo Curve editor itself says it does not reveal masking lines. So that's another one that can be summarily declared bull ◊◊◊◊.

The only remaining issue, as far as I know, are my tan line progressions, which are stagnant due to cloudiness and drizzle.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

So we need a sure-fire filter for detecting if Thermal is using fake tan. Maybe a klaxon which goes off if it senses a particularly unnatural shade of orange.

 

[Thermal]

<Nvm>

 

[Thermal]

Nt1, have you given your final answers, or would you.like to demonstrate your technique? That's all we care about. Your reverse image searching and deciding if shadows look natural are far below the level of skill you are being repeatedly requested to demonstrate. You say you have the tools. Let's put them to work and demonstrate.

Eta: so far, you claimed to have a method that reveals masking lines. The tool you use itself says it does not do so.

You gave agreed to use this tool on Andy_Ross' six pictures.

So far, you have revealed zero evidence of tampering in any of the 6 pics. Absolute zero.

 

[Thermal]

Are you going to show us the results of applying your methods to the six example pictures I posted in the thread?

Andy. Yes. Those got buried. Ill go find them.

Let me explain... no there is too much. Let me sum up:

You agreed, this morning, to apply the methods that have been in dispute to Andy's pictures to identify tampering. Instead, you gave a grade school level reverse image searching and vague talk about shadows and what you think about gradients and how natural you think they look.

Is this really all you've got?

 

[GlennB]

Andy. Yes. Those got buried. Ill go find them.

I hope nobody is holding their breath ...

 

[P.J. Denyer]

So we need a sure-fire filter for detecting if Thermal is using fake tan. Maybe a klaxon which goes off if it senses a particularly unnatural shade of orange.

If you need to test your filter I think I might be able to find some official Whitehouse Press photos you can try it on.

 

[steenkh]

These are the words

"Which ones have been tampered with."

You very well knew that it was your halo method that was to be tested. But apparently you have so little confidence in it that at first you ignored the challenge, and then later you tried to find out which ones had been tampered with than with your halo technique, probably because you knew that the halo technique would fail.

This is not good at all.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Nt1 can see JayUtah's posts. He is feeding them into his Chatty for analysis, and says Chatty is impressed with JayUtah's posts. Pretty sure we can dispense with the "Iggy Excuse" as bull ◊◊◊◊. Nt1 can see them, and the firm spanking they deliver.

And the Photo Curve editor itself says it does not reveal masking lines. So that's another one that can be summarily declared bull ◊◊◊◊.

The only remaining issue, as far as I know, are my tan line progressions, which are stagnant due to cloudiness and drizzle.

Indeed, he seems to think he can dismiss them as a call to authority, but anyone that reads them can see that it's the information within them that's devastating to his hypothesis, not the expertise of the writer, although Justin Kruger & David Dunning could be called to the stand.

 

[Thermal]

If you need to test your filter I think I might be able to find some official Whitehouse Press photos you can try it on.

I've found Rust-O-Leum spray paint in "Insurrectionist Orange" to be a fair match. Also poignant to be applying it to my ass and balls.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

I've found Rust-O-Leum spray paint in "Insurrectionist Orange" to be a fair match. Also poignant to be applying it to my ass and balls.

Trump just applies it to his ass. Then walks on his hands.

 

[Thermal]

Trump just applies it to his ass. Then walks on his hands.

Speaking of asses and hands, nt1 has had his ass handed to him. Yet we are about to enter week two of stalling and trying to talk about something else.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Speaking of asses and hands, nt1 has had his ass handed to him. Yet we are about to enter week two of stalling and trying to talk about something else.

Expect another spiel about how nasty everyone here is..

 

[Thermal]

Expect another spiel about how nasty everyone here is..

*flashes rude gang sign*

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Joking aside, it does annoy me when people march into a community which has been in existence since (if I recall correctly) before they were born announcing that they're actually too good to be there and everyone there will fail to meet their standards, and tries to redefine the accepted terms of discourse because they can't meet the standards (note, standards not volume) of evidence and discourse that are expected here. This is a welcoming place, but bring your ego & nothing to back it up and you'll make a fool of yourself pretty quickly.