Apple vs Samsung let the fun begin.

And it's being widely reported that the jury has reached a verdict, and will be announced "soon", whatever that means.

2 days seems very short for such a complex case, I wouldn't be surprised if the jury denied Apple's and Samsung's claims.
 
Darat said:
Wonder if there are grounds for an appeal or will this be a final decision?
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I would not be surprised if this case went to the Federal Circuit on appeal.

As it happens, there are generally enough questions of law* imbedded in patent decisions that they're pretty much always appealable -- the Markman hearing that leads to claim construction, Daubert rulings on experts, etc. Whether Fed.Cir. actually takes the appeal or just affirms without opinion is another question.




*"Questions of law" means decisions made by the judge rather than the jury; please read my earlier explanation or a Wikipedia article before saying something silly.
 
This trial result reinforces my firm commitment to never buy an Apple product.

Ever.
 
WildCat said:
And it's being widely reported that the jury has reached a verdict, and will be announced "soon", whatever that means.

2 days seems very short for such a complex case, I wouldn't be surprised if the jury denied Apple's and Samsung's claims.
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Surprise!
 
Apple Vs. Samsung. Apple wins

http://www.cnbc.com/id/48783982

"Apple scored a sweeping legal victory over Samsung Electronics on Friday as a U.S. jury found the Korean company had copied critical features of the hugely popular iPhone and iPad and awarded the U.S. company $1.05 billion in damages.As for the countersuit, the jury found Apple did not violate any of Samsung's wireless standards or feature patents."


Now what?
 
Apple beats Samsung

http://www.cnbc.com/id/48783982

"Apple scored a sweeping legal victory over Samsung Electronics on Friday as a U.S. jury found the Korean company had copied critical features of the hugely popular iPhone and iPad and awarded the U.S. company $1.05 billion in damages.As for the countersuit, the jury found Apple did not violate any of Samsung's wireless standards or feature patents."


Pyrrhic victory?
 
Meanwhile in Korea:

S. Korean judge rules Apple, Samsung infringed on each other's patents

SEOUL, South Korea — A South Korean court ruled Friday that technology giants Apple Inc. and Samsung Electronics Co. both infringed on each other’s patents, and ordered a partial ban of their products in South Korea. The court also denied accusations that Samsung copied the look and feel of the iPhone and iPad.

The Seoul Central District Court ordered Apple to remove the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPad 1 and iPad 2 from store shelves in South Korea, ruling that the products infringed on two of Samsung’s five disputed patents, including those for telecommunications techology.

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But in a twist, the court also ruled that Suwon, South Korea-based Samsung had infringed on one of Apple’s patents related to the screen’s bounce-back feature, which causes the screen to bounce back when a user scrolls to an end image. The court banned sales of products using the technology, including the Galaxy S2, in South Korea.

Sales of devices recently released by Samsung and Apple — including the iPhone 4S and the Galaxy S3 smartphones — were not affected.
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BenBurch said:
Patents exist for a reason. Samsung can come back in a generation and use any of them it likes.
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The problem is, those patents were not really innovative at all. The decision will be appealed, and I am willing to take a bet that some of the discovery which was rejected by the judge, will come back in thru the appeal, which will order another round.
And the next time the jury might not be "friendly" with apple (very quick on the decision , I mean 700 questions 22 hours that's about 2 minute per question ; and pretty much ignored every prior art points).
 
AvalonXQ said:
I would not be surprised if this case went to the Federal Circuit on appeal.

As it happens, there are generally enough questions of law* imbedded in patent decisions that they're pretty much always appealable -- the Markman hearing that leads to claim construction, Daubert rulings on experts, etc. Whether Fed.Cir. actually takes the appeal or just affirms without opinion is another question.




*"Questions of law" means decisions made by the judge rather than the jury; please read my earlier explanation or a Wikipedia article before saying something silly.
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Glad to see that you've got yourself up to speed with this trial and learnt it is a jury trial and thus it was the decision of the jury that would determine the the outcome of this trial. Always better to make claims based on the actual facts.

ETA: Do you a have an actual reply to my post ie do you know if there are any grounds for an appeal?
 
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