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Merged Apollo "hoax" discussion - continuation thread

I've actually read the US Navy's "After Action Reports" of the event. A surprising number of personnel DID report seeing German bombers. That does not, of course, indicate there were any present.

Say what??

Eyewitness evidence is notoriously unreliable. They'd been trained to think of Germany as a potential enemy, so some saw German planes.
 
Did they know from the start (1961) that it is impossible and the whole thing was a planned hoax or did they start off with good intentions only to find out later that it's impossible but decided to carry on with it as a hoax anyway for whatever reason, to save embarrassment? or some other reason.

You can see the stuff left on the moon by the Apollo missions, from earth, with a not very expensive telescope.
 
But you can still bounce a laser off the retro reflectors placed by the Apollo crews. And we did get about 30 gigabits of lovely science telemetry from the RTG-powered ALSEP observatories they also set up. This was received by tracking stations around the world, up until 1977 when the ALSEPs were finally decommissioned. A lot of people don't realize Apollo was actively returning science data for years after A17 departed.
 
You can see the stuff left on the moon by the Apollo missions, from earth, with a not very expensive telescope.
No, that's incorrect, but the LRO can. Of course, the die hards and charlatans would probably still deny the historical reality, even if you flew their butts to the Moon and landed them at an Apollo landing site. A couple of them, I'd probably just drop them off without a space suit!:desmile:;)
 
I found this one rather entertaining. YouTube user rdbob61 writes:

Now that is most likely the most amazing 360 degree photograph ever taken by NASSHOLE satanists, masons, and luciferians. Don't all of you find it simply amazing that these masonic liars 0:58 /2:12 to 1:33 / 2:12 Sun (studio light) starts 1:34 / 2:12 oh Wow just oh Wow full sun (actually full studio light) My Oh' My the sun (studio light) is barely as large as the earth even though according to images and Nassholes. 1:39 / 2:12 The sun (studio light) is 1 million times larger than the earth and 40,000 million times larger than the moon. Pretty small sun (studio light) if you ask me? Wow oh Wow Uncle Gene Cernan did a 360 degree photo, in other words Uncle Gene turned all the way in a complete circle, is it just me but WHERE DID THE EARTH Go? WHERE IS THE EARTH? OOOOPS is this a big OOOOPS for Gene Cernan the liar pictures don't lie or do they? Pictures lie when you are in an EARTH studio and can't fake the little BLUE DOT we call EARTH. Where did the earth go in this PANORAMA SHOT remember EARTH is 5 FIVE times larger than the moon, wouldn't that be pretty hard to hide all you space Nasshole PhD's? Where did you conspirators hide the EARTH? Please give us another explanation for the thousandth time of finding another mistake. I want to hear the brilliant answer for this one? Here I will help it was behind the mound of dirt even though the earth pales the moon in size and comparison according to Nassholes own written and photographic depictions. For all you conspirators’, liars, tin hat, moonie sheepels, please stop embarrassing yourselves? Man has never been in space, on the moon, closer to the moon than earth, never walked on anything except a studio floor, and will never be in space. The ONLY SPACE NASSHOLE HAS CONQUERED IS THE SPACE BETWEEN THE CONSPIRATORS EARS. Nassholes’s own photo’s prove they as well as their moonie sheeples are LIARS. All you Nasshole moonie sheeples, will you please use Nassholes own photo instructional images? Look at the earth it is almost 5 times larger than our moon. The Sun is one million times larger than the earth and 400 times larger than the moon. For all you tin hat, moonie sheeple, conspirators’ that means the since the Nasshole liars were 240 thousand miles closer according to Nassholes the earth would fill the screen of a camera from the moon and the sun would be all you could see according to Nassholes own images. www.helioviewer.org HA, HA,HA, HA, you tricksters hid the earth on purpose what a bunch of fakers you NASSHOLES are.

This guy is so stupid that he thinks that helioviewer is showing him how big the sun should look relative to the earth from the moon. It's like the "hold my beer and watch this" of YouTube comments.
 
I found this one rather entertaining. YouTube user rdbob61 writes:



This guy is so stupid that he thinks that helioviewer is showing him how big the sun should look relative to the earth from the moon. It's like the "hold my beer and watch this" of YouTube comments.
 
Say what??

If you consider the following....

1. In 1941 very few American civilians would have known anything about what Japanese bombers looked like.

2. The war in Europe had been going for over 12 months during which time the Battle of Britain had taken place

3. American civilians would have seen plenty of German bombers in newsreel footage on TV and in Cinemas.

..... then it not unreasonable for witnesses not trained in Aircraft Recognition to mistake some Japanese bombers for German ones, e.g a Kate or a Val for a Stuka.
 
If you consider the following....

1. In 1941 very few American civilians would have known anything about what Japanese bombers looked like.

2. The war in Europe had been going for over 12 months during which time the Battle of Britain had taken place

3. American civilians would have seen plenty of German bombers in newsreel footage on TV and in Cinemas.

..... then it not unreasonable for witnesses not trained in Aircraft Recognition to mistake some Japanese bombers for German ones, e.g a Kate or a Val for a Stuka.

Thanks I had not quite grasp what you were referring too!
 
If you consider the following....

1. In 1941 very few American civilians would have known anything about what Japanese bombers looked like.

2. The war in Europe had been going for over 12 months during which time the Battle of Britain had taken place

3. American civilians would have seen plenty of German bombers in newsreel footage on TV and in Cinemas.

..... then it not unreasonable for witnesses not trained in Aircraft Recognition to mistake some Japanese bombers for German ones, e.g a Kate or a Val for a Stuka.

Heck, just considering all the panicky AA gunners who opened up on friendly aircraft after recognition training, it's no wonder civilians would misidentify aircraft types. Even Allied pilots thought the Japanese were flying Bf-109s after seeing their first Ki-61s. And I read about a flight of RAF A-36s being bounced over England by Jugs because they mistook them for Messerschmitts. Fortunately they saw the roundels before they shot any down. But they still put some holes in them.
 
And I read about a flight of RAF A-36s being bounced over England by Jugs because they mistook them for Messerschmitts. Fortunately they saw the roundels before they shot any down. But they still put some holes in them.


In the South-East Asia Theatre, Allied aircraft often had the red spot in the centre of their roundel painted out, like this,

75px-RAF_Type_C1_Roundel_SEAC.svg.png


so that in the heat of air battle, pilots and AA gunners would not confuse them with the Japanese roundel
 
In the South-East Asia Theatre, Allied aircraft often had the red spot in the centre of their roundel painted out, like this,

[qimg]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/RAF_Type_C1_Roundel_SEAC.svg/75px-RAF_Type_C1_Roundel_SEAC.svg.png[/qimg]

so that in the heat of air battle, pilots and AA gunners would not confuse them with the Japanese roundel

Yep, even the U.S. star had the red circle in the center removed, never to return again.
 
But you can still bounce a laser off the retro reflectors placed by the Apollo crews. And we did get about 30 gigabits of lovely science telemetry from the RTG-powered ALSEP observatories they also set up. This was received by tracking stations around the world, up until 1977 when the ALSEPs were finally decommissioned. A lot of people don't realize Apollo was actively returning science data for years after A17 departed.

How true.
 
Did they know from the start (1961) that it is impossible and the whole thing was a planned hoax or did they start off with good intentions only to find out later that it's impossible but decided to carry on with it as a hoax anyway for whatever reason, to save embarrassment? or some other reason.

Yes, they knew from the start that it is impossible.
In the beginning NASA used studios to fake moon landings because they still needed to develop skills in rocket technology.

In the last years the only skills that NASA developed was Photoshop & Co. to land on Mars, deep impacts on comets, etc.

Space Travel Hoax - The ultimate goal exposed
Never did any Soviet Union or US "spacecraft" leave the orbit around the Earth.

NASA never launched astronauts using rocket technology.

So what was the ultimate goal of the pyramid of lies known as Space Travel?

The ultimate goal of the Space Travel Hoax lies beyond the feasibility agenda, i.e. the conquest of the Universe, as proof of godlike illuminati.
The ultimate goal is nothing but a consequence of the BIG LIE technique, the base for illuminati control.

The ultimate goal, now revealed worldwide first, was to produce "evidence" to cover up the hoax at the base of the pyramid of lies:
T I D A L
L O C K I N G
 

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