Merged Apollo "hoax" discussion - continuation thread

Wallnut said:
Van Allen first said it was impossible then CIA operatives met with him in Iowa City and he suddenly reversed himself ! But it's for national security !! :cool:
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So even though it's a "national security" issue, you know all about it. And no one does anything to stop or silence you or your sources.

If Van Allen was forced to lie about his major scientific discovery, how do you explain the tens of billions of annual commerce in space equipment that works just fine under the data provided for and by Apollo? And before you think about bluffing, keep in mind that there are a few actual space engineers in this thread.
 
JayUtah said:
It's cute that you actually believe that stuff. I corresponded directly with Van Allen on this point before he passed away. What kind of source does that make me in your book?
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It's ok it's for national security !! I'm from Iowa City !! Where the real story still looms !!
 
Wallnut said:
Look I don't want to get a reputation as a conspiracy theorist !! :shocked:
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You're proposing a conspiracy involved CIA agents bullying Dr. Van Allen to change his mind on his life's work, and keeping it a national secret. Can you think of a better word to describe what you're doing?
 
Wallnut said:
It's ok it's for national security !! I'm from Iowa City !! Where the real story still looms !!
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Then you should be able to provide evidence beyond references to crackpot websites. And I'm still fuzzy on how widely disseminating this story somehow helps national security.
 
Giordano said:
I know personally that Apollo is only a dog food and that aliens pilot the space shuttle because no human being could survive...

Excuse me, there are some people knocking at my door... Be right back.'


Oh, what I meant to say is that there are no conspiracies and no aliens. I really meant that Alans were piloting the space shuttle. I've always been bad in spelling, he he he. Just please, now that I said what you wanted, please don't shot me with your ray gun!
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Now that the Alans are taken care of, we should move on to the Van Halens
 
JayUtah said:
You're proposing a conspiracy involved CIA agents bullying Dr. Van Allen to change his mind on his life's work, and keeping it a national secret. Can you think of a better word to describe what you're doing?
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Ya that's what happened except he didn't change his mind only what he made public !!
 
JayUtah said:
Then you should be able to provide evidence beyond references to crackpot websites. And I'm still fuzzy on how widely disseminating this story somehow helps national security.
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There are no current links that I am aware of !! The entire story needs a few bridges to make it work , Dr, Van Allen's work created the need to build a bridge get the story to work ! When you look at the fried test monkey and all shuttle flights staying below the belt validate my information ! The TR3B goes through so fast it doesn't apply !!
 
I, for one, welcome our new Wallnut overlord. Resistance is futile. Go Wallnut! ;)
 
JayUtah said:
You're proposing a conspiracy involved CIA agents bullying Dr. Van Allen to change his mind on his life's work, and keeping it a national secret. Can you think of a better word to describe what you're doing?
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Well you know it's only a conspiracy if the powers to be don't want it out there !!
 
Wallnut said:
Well you know it's only a conspiracy if the powers to be don't want it out there !!
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So why can't they say it themselves? Why do they need you and Rense and McClelland -- the latter two not especially reliable sources of information for anything -- to break this earth-shattering story to the world?

Come on, show us the CIA memos where they announce their willingness to let the "real" Apollo story be told. Don't keep us in suspense.
 
Sigh

I just hang around here poking political threads with a stick waiting for someone who actually wants to talk about rockets. Oh well.
 
ApolloGnomon said:
Sigh

I just hang around here poking political threads with a stick waiting for someone who actually wants to talk about rockets. Oh well.
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I would love to talk about rockets. Unfortunately, I know nothing about rockets.

I sense that this may be something of a pattern here.
 
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