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Anyone lost any freedoms?

JAStewart

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JAStewart
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A great thread I saw over at LC, figured it would get more response here.

What freedoms have you lost since 9/11? Everyone seems to talk about what freedoms they've lost. Go on, list them all:

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"As a behaviorist, I never had any freedoms to begin with."

Don't mind Mercutio. He can't help himself.

The illusion of freedom then...

Freedom from false accusation and character assassination. You lose it when you criticize a Troofer. Also freedom of privacy.

Freedom of speech, when they throw you out of their forums.
Freedom of speech again, when they drown you out with their bullhorns.
The freedom to hear both sides of the story--not generally allowed amongst the Trutherwuthers.
 
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I know that I've lost the ability to receive calls from Al Qaeda members around the world without my phone being tapped.
 
I lost my right to paaaaarty.

I may have to fight for it.
 
I've lost the freedom of doing my job without the police knowing what the hell I'm doing. But that might actually have to do with the fact that I work with the police?
 
Habeas corpus is on the slab.
You can have freedom of speech--but only in certain zones.
The wrong T-shirt, not to mention the wrong words, can get you arrested.
Your privacy is largely gone.
The right to vote is barely a breath on a mirror.
The press corps exist in a state of perpetual fear.
Whistleblowers live in terror.
Laws passed by your elected representatives get rewritten by the President, just like that.
Safe abortions are harder and harder to get.
We know we're screwed if there's another hurricane.
You can join the Army, but you may not be able to leave it.
Most of us want a healthcare system, but they won't do anything
Most of us want the President and Vice-President impeached, but they won't do it.
If you're on life support, Congress may intervene to keep you plugged in.
You might want to watch what books you check out of the library.
The U.S. is so deeply in debt we cannot even declare war without the OK of foreign investors.
The only opinions on TV are those of crazy white guys.
Institutions designed to protect us are now hurting us.
The infant mortality rate is going up for the first time in forty years.
Most of our electoral districts are gerrymandered, so our votes barely count.
Sometimes the machines flip the votes right in front of our eyes.
Torture is now national policy.
Democracy has been pared to the bone.
Thousands of people have died.

Other than that we're fine.
 
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Everything is fine here in Canada/Québec. Maybe the loss of freedom was limited to Ground Zero, were people lost their freedom to live...
 
JAStewart said:
A great thread I saw over at LC, figured it would get more response here.

What freedoms have you lost since 9/11? Everyone seems to talk about what freedoms they've lost. Go on, list them all:

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Freedom to bring my nail clippers with on a plane.
Freedom to bring my lighter with me on a plane
Freedom from being harassed by ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ at the airport. At least the Hari Krishnas were polite.
Freedom from same ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ harassing my 76 year old mother at airports.

So, I don't do air travel anymore, unless I am absoutely required to by my job and the boss is paying. Funny thing, I have slightly increased the number of telecons and VTC's, and wasted a whole lot less time in airports waiting for OJ to run by on his way to the Hertz counter.

The hotel, rent-a-car, and airline companies can all blow me.

DR
 
JAStewart said:
A great thread I saw over at LC, figured it would get more response here.

What freedoms have you lost since 9/11? Everyone seems to talk about what freedoms they've lost. Go on, list them all:

1.
2.
3.

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Click to expand...

I live in germany. So i did not lost any freedom and
there is no NWO at all. The only thing i lost are some
nerves because these freedom-claims. I don´t even
know why everyone is whining. Kick the neocon @sses
in 2008 and the problems are gone. Wrong? :confused:
 
I have lost the freedom to protect the privacy of my patrons.

My patrons have lost their right to keep their reading preferences to themselves.
 
You live in a culture of permissible behavior. You are allowed to behave a bit more freely in this culture than in others, perhaps, but still there are restrictions and that being so there is no such thing as freedom....only the permissible range of behavior. You are also far less free if you are of the wrong color skin, facial features, weight, gender, or some other feature such as background, creed, nationality, etc. etc. The myth of freedom is what many morons (like your prez) in this country live with and brag about. The rest of the world knows and sees quite clearly just how full of Bullsh#t American braggarts are.
 
joemailman said:
You live in a culture of permissible behavior. You are allowed to behave a bit more freely in this culture than in others, perhaps, but still there are restrictions and that being so there is no such thing as freedom....only the permissible range of behavior. You are also far less free if you are of the wrong color skin, facial features, weight, gender, or some other feature such as background, creed, nationality, etc. etc. The myth of freedom is what many morons (like your prez) in this country live with and brag about. The rest of the world knows and sees quite clearly just how full of Bullsh#t American braggarts are.
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May i ask: "Where do you come from"?
 
Off the top of my head . . .


I lost the right to own and operate a private airport security company.
I lost the right to keep that portion of my income which has now been spent on various wars.
I lost the right to a jury trial if accused of being an "enemy combatant".
I lost the right to speak on the telephone without being monitored by warrantless government agents
I lost the right to speak via email without being monitored by warrantless government agents
Airlines lost the right to allow their customers to bring liquids on board
I lost the right to be free of government agents monitoring my behavior if I belong to a religious or political organization.
I lost the right to keep my library records confidential from government agents
 
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