Anyone interested in debunking Pandora's Box Chapter Two?

GregoryUrich said:
Why are you on this thread if you don't care about the topic? I'm beginning to think it's not just the truthers who are stupid.

You've judged the video without seeing it. Brilliant!
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Sooner or later someone will get around to examining this video. Please have more patience than to expect it to be answered in less than a few minutes.

I, for one, will say that I am *sick* of watching the 'latest, greatest' troother video. I've seen over a dozen of them now, and the ones that aren't sickening are just plain devoid of any facts. To date, I have yet to learn the whole story about something from watching a troother video.

I have been at the stage where I expect that Uwe Boll will produce an Oscar worthy piture before any group with the name 'truth' in its title will produce a video with an actual fact within it.

Don't like it? Tough <rule8>, you troothers have been dropping loads of dung in our laps and telling is it is full of diamonds. You done this over and over, while spreading more and more lies. This is just another pile of dung you have dropped and insisted that we sort it for jewels to your level of satisfaction.

To then turn around and accuse us of 'not being open-minded' just because we don't jump up like your lap-dog and go running to watch a video where JDX once again demonstrates he does not know how to read data from a black box, or that his 'pilots' can't even aim their largest planes at some of the largest structures in the United States.

So, Gregory, please feel free to take your video, and your attitude and flake off. I predict this video, like EVERY OTHER TROOTHER VIDEO, will give nothing new, merely demonstrate their ability to pull the wool over the eyes of the misinformed and idiots. Its the same old, same old. With the same damn pathetic pleas that we are somehow 'obliged' to take and debunk every pile of <rule8> that troothers produce.
 
Further to kookbreakers excellent response, if this video has anything new to add to the sum of human knowledge, the internet forums are not the place to present it. You think 3000 innocent people were killed by the US govt on 911, and yet you, and the so called 'pilots for truth' think the way to prosecute this crime is with another internet video?

Puuuhlease! Get a sense of proportion.

ETA: This isn't a debate about what hard drive to install, or which airline to travel with, it's about death and destruction.

The deaths of thousands of people, and 'truthers' want to prosecute it on the internet. The more I think about it the more deranged I believe they are
 
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Well said kookbreaker, that pretty much sums up my sentiments.
 
Open-minded

kookbreaker said:
Sooner or later someone will get around to examining this video. Please have more patience than to expect it to be answered in less than a few minutes.

I, for one, will say that I am *sick* of watching the 'latest, greatest' troother video. I've seen over a dozen of them now, and the ones that aren't sickening are just plain devoid of any facts. To date, I have yet to learn the whole story about something from watching a troother video.

I have been at the stage where I expect that Uwe Boll will produce an Oscar worthy piture before any group with the name 'truth' in its title will produce a video with an actual fact within it.

Don't like it? Tough <rule8>, you troothers have been dropping loads of dung in our laps and telling is it is full of diamonds. You done this over and over, while spreading more and more lies. This is just another pile of dung you have dropped and insisted that we sort it for jewels to your level of satisfaction.

To then turn around and accuse us of 'not being open-minded' just because we don't jump up like your lap-dog and go running to watch a video where JDX once again demonstrates he does not know how to read data from a black box, or that his 'pilots' can't even aim their largest planes at some of the largest structures in the United States.

So, Gregory, please feel free to take your video, and your attitude and flake off. I predict this video, like EVERY OTHER TROOTHER VIDEO, will give nothing new, merely demonstrate their ability to pull the wool over the eyes of the misinformed and idiots. Its the same old, same old. With the same damn pathetic pleas that we are somehow 'obliged' to take and debunk every pile of <rule8> that troothers produce.
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I haven't complained that no one was watching the video or that reponses weren't forthcoming. I was just pointing out that judging the film without seeing it is closed minded. In some cases I wasn't sure if the person had watched the film so I asked.

The thread is for debunking the video. I assume one would need to watch it to comment intelligently on it.

It's not my video. I won't flake off!
 
I judge the film with out watching it for this reason...

Their premise is flawed. For them to be correct in their analysis, it means that the very people they are accusing of orchestrating the deaths of 3000 people, their government, had to (A) plant the fake FDR with data, and (B) place the INCORRECT DATA on the FDR. NOW HOW F^&KING STUPID is that? The same evil masterminds who orchestrated 9/11 and pulled the wool over the worlds eyes, were TOO F**KING DUMB to put data on the faked FDR that would prove, beyond doubt, that AA77 struck the 5 light posts, and then hit the Pentagon.

In my opinion, you cannot have it both ways, either the USG had no role in 9/11, and the data or the analysis is incorrect, OR the evil cabal was in on it, and hence they planeted all the evidence, in which case, given how good they were at all other aspects of the attacks, and the cover up, HOW ON GODS EARTH could they be STUPID enough to plant INCORRECT DATA??????

TAM:)
 
GregoryUrich said:
The thread is for debunking the video. I assume one would need to watch it to comment intelligently on it.
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Not necessarily. Only if there's some particular aspect which needs to be seen in order to be understood would that be the case. Otherwise, whatever points it raises can simply be listed, with whatever supporting evidence from the video similarly listed, and then discussed.

Not everyone has either the time or the inclination to watch a video on the internet. Especially without some discussion of what its contents are.
 
For the record, I took it from the original post that you were asking us to debunk the “Revolution Radio” segment from the linked page. I suspect that’s where a lot of the confusion has stemmed from.
 
GregoryUrich said:
I haven't complained that no one was watching the video or that reponses weren't forthcoming. I wasjjust pointing out that judging the film without seeing it is closed minded.
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And I'll point out that our using experience with troother videos lacking content is miles away from 'close-minded'. What you are saying is the equivelant of insisting that you can surivive being hit by a train and to not jump on the tracks is 'close-minded'. That attitude is insulting, patronizing, and frankly were are all freaking sick of that kind of cheap, grade-school-deabte-team pandering tactic.


In some cases I wasn't sure if the person had watched the film so I asked.

The thread is for debunking the video. I assume one would need to watch it to comment intelligently on it.
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You are wrong. As the link I produced above shows, the PFT have demonstrated they are unwilling to learn or consult data analysis experts. Yet they have gone on to produce their video anyway. Its a typical troother tactic: Make up your own science and ignore the people who are genuine experts.

It's not my video. I won't flake off!
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Then get up to speed. There's a history here, and you are unwilling to stufy it. Instead you play the CTer game of 'ha! debunk this video! bethca can't!!!'
 
T.A.M. said:
HOW ON GODS EARTH could they be STUPID enough to plant INCORRECT DATA??????

TAM:)
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Add to that, even if they accidentally planted the FDR with the wrong evidence, why wouldn't they fix it before they release it to the public?
 
GregoryUrich said:
A guy found a part. Yep, lets close up shop. Why not examine the new evidence and see how it fits in with the other evidence?
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Adding to my previous reply: I find your summary of Hal Bidlack's post to be short-sighted, insulting, and disgusting. I think you owe this board and apology.
 
Skibum said:
Add to that, even if they accidentally planted the FDR with the wrong evidence, why wouldn't they fix it before they release it to the public?
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[CT paranoia mode]
You see the whole FDR thing is complete disinfo. The USG via the NTSB purposely put this incorrect info out there, to keep a large part of the 9/11 truth movement busy on a wild goose chase. In a few months they will come out with an apology, and the CORRECT data, but by then it will be too late...[/CT paranoia mode]

TAM;)
 
GregoryUrich said:
I haven't complained that no one was watching the video or that reponses weren't forthcoming. I was just pointing out that judging the film without seeing it is closed minded. In some cases I wasn't sure if the person had watched the film so I asked.

The thread is for debunking the video. I assume one would need to watch it to comment intelligently on it.

It's not my video. I won't flake off!
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Please provide a summary of the video
 
If anyone is interested in watching the video, I'll be interested in discussing it with them. You other guys are totally lame.
 
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