Anti-nuclear Numskullery

[Cuddles]

Again, you pick one set of numbers out of the wiki, I pick another.

I really don't understand why you insist on lying about this. Your posts, the Wiki page, and the original reports are all there for everyone to see. Shadron said 13 megacuries of Xenon*, quoting from a report also quoted on Wiki, you quoted Wiki saying 2.5 megacuries of noble gasses and claimed that the two numbers are 2.5 orders of magnitude different. Unless you were claiming that 15 and 17, the numbers for Iodine, are two orders of magnitude different. Because of course that would make you look much less silly. The only other number Wiki quotes is for a separate release of Krypton, which has nothing to do with the point at hand. Wiki does not give any numbers other than 13 or 2.5 megacuries for noble gasses, 15 or 17 curies for Iodine and 43 kilocuries for Krypton. At no point are any of them 2.5 orders of magnitude different.

* Itself a mistake, the report he's quoting actually says 13 megacuries of noble gasses, primarily Xenon. But you were so busy trying to argue that you didn't even bother reading that quote on the very page you're trying to argue about.

Let's see, one claimed to be measuring argon, one claimed to be measuring all noble gases, one claimed to be measuring xenon, (and there were some more as well that I don't recall)

No, none claimed to be measuring Argon, two claimed be measuring all noble gasses, and one claimed to be measuring Krypton at a different time. Perhaps if you actually tried reading instead of just making things up ("recall generally refers to things that actually happened, not your imagination), you might be struggling a little less here.

and I seriously doubt that you can have less noble gas emission (in terms of radioactivity), for instance, than you have xenon emissions alone.

And if only anything actually made such a stupid claim, that would be a perfectly valid point to make. Instead, it just makes it even more clear that you haven't bothered reading anything and don't have clue what you're talking about.

That does not make me wrong, it makes the wiki rather horridly inconsistant, but I think I said that 3 or 6 times already.

Yes, you have repeated this stupid lie several times. I don't know if you think that will make it true or something, but I hate to tell you that's not actually how reality works.

 

[jj]

I really don't understand why you insist on lying about this.

Please stop insisting that I am lying.

I am not.

 

[jj]

No, none claimed to be measuring Argon, two claimed be measuring all noble gasses, and one claimed to be measuring Krypton at a different time.

Indeed, that is what I cited, noting at the time, in fact, that the measurements were at different times and places for different things.

Please stop abusing me.

 

[jj]

The only other number Wiki quotes is for a separate release of Krypton, which has nothing to do with the point at hand. Wiki does not give any numbers other than 13 or 2.5 megacuries for noble gasses, 15 or 17 curies for Iodine and 43 kilocuries for Krypton. At no point are any of them 2.5 orders of magnitude different.

13 megacuries vs 43 kilocuries (yes, of different noble gasses) is how many orders of magnitude, approximately?

Yes, that is apples to oranges. But the wiki does point those two issues out, separately, along with a lot of other extremely poorly presented points that skew in all directions. And, yes, I intended to point that out.

Now, here is the original discussion, copied directly from the board:

Well, 13 megacuries of 90Xenon and 17 curies of 135Iodine were released, according to the Kemeny report.

Thats about 2.5 orders of magnitude more than one of the entries to the wiki says. Of course that talks about Krypton and Iodine radioisopes and you are talking about Xenon.

That's what the article said within a minute of posting. So your insistance on lies, etc, is shown to be sheer harrassment. Please stop.

 

[Cuddles]

Indeed, that is what I cited, noting at the time, in fact, that the measurements were at different times and places for different things.

Seriously? You're actually claiming that Wiki is inconsistent because measurements of two completely different things at completely different times gave different results?

OK, I apologise for calling you a liar. I just assumed you must be lying because I didn't imagine you could possibly be making such a horrendously stupid argument.

Please stop abusing me.

If you're going to make such incredibly stupid arguments, you're going to be called on them. If you don't want that to happen, stop making stupid posts.

 

[jj]

Never mind. You're just here for the abuse, and this is supposed to be an argument.

 

[Howie Felterbush]

Never mind. You're just here for the abuse, and this is supposed to be an argument.

Five minute argument or the full half hour?