Another woo "free energy" device?

[MattusMaximus]

I guess longevity might have been the idea, but it doesn't strike me as a particularly great way to do it.

I think scamming the gullible and environmentally-concerned out of their cash was the idea behind the PS1200, but that's just me.

 

[Cuddles]

Would this device be legal, even if it can do everything it claims? There is a contract between you and your energy provider. They agree to provide you power and you pay them for the power you use. This device does nothing more than try to fool them into charging you for less power than you actually used, and I don't see how that can be anything other than fraud. Just because there is a flaw in their measurement doesn't make it OK to take advantage of it, any more than stealing being OK just because someone left a window open.

 

[Thabiguy]

This device does nothing more than try to fool them into charging you for less power than you actually used, and I don't see how that can be anything other than fraud.

It doesn't fool them into charging you for less power than you used. It makes you transfer less power over power company wires (by confining the power that just bounces back and forth without doing useful work within your home).

If you are charged for kWh, the device won't save you any money, but it may make the power company somewhat happier by reducing their transmission losses.

If you are charged for kVAh, the device may save you money, but by actually reducing the kVAh transferred, not by any kind of fraud.

See several preceding posts for further explanation.

 

[Christian Klippel]

Thabiguy,

you are right. Dunno why, but somehow i mixed up things. I should not write forum posts while working on something else, while at the same time having to look up german<->english dictionaries for both. My bad. We have kWh meters here in Germany.

Sorry for the fuzz,

Chris

 

[Graham Jackman]

Here in Australia, Silicon Chip magazine looked at two such devices in Nov 2007 and May 2008. Both contained a capcitor of ca. 6uF for power factor correction. The conclusion from both analyses was that;
1. The Enersonic Power saver may provide a degree of power factor correction for inductive loads BUT
2. It will not result in any reduction in real power as measured by any appliance energy meter or the meters in the power box at home. It will probably lead to a small increase.
3. It does not "clean up" voltage and current waveforms and it does not have any means of doing so.

Back numbers of the magazine can be obtained from siliconchip.com.au

"There's no such thing as a free lunch"

 

[Ordover]

I have a free electricity source in my backyard. I just plug my house into it and run a cord under the fence and plug it into my neighbor's power supply....