Another UN scandal?

[Ion]

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But the suggestion to ignore him overlooks the fact that he is here to disrupt threads with his drive-by trollage, and 'Look at Me!!' antics.
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What's the alternative?

Look at crim's antics?

Like having voted for criminal Bush, and bringing up a U.N. sex scandal that is overshadowed by U.S. rapes in Iraq?

No thanks.

It's better to look at me.
While me I look at Dean in politics (and others, in different fields).

 

[Ion]

I'm too lazy to look it up at the moment, but it was about a year ago that Ion argued that the economic recovery was a sham, a lie, a conspiracy perpetrated by (who else?) George Bush.

RandFan and others provided charts, stats and reports to show the recession began at the end of Clinton's second term and was technically long past (recession being two consecutive quarters of negative growth, you know, the definition the whole world uses). The low rate of job growth was immediately conceded, since the figures plainly showed it.

Ion's response? The recession was still on - indeed, it was worse than ever - because he couldn't find a job in his field. Got that? Ion can't get a job=recession.

Just so you know what kind of mindset you're dealing with here. The mother references are another giveaway, of course. And if he's so swift, I'm wondering why he can't find the flame war forum...?

It is correct what I said then that the recession is on.

I was correct then, BTox was wrong then, I am correct now that the recession is on, jocky is incorrect now that the recession is over.

Bush proclaimed that the recession is over exactly like he wished the war in Iraq being over in his blunderous "Mission accomplished".
Manipulating of the G.D.P. and unemployment numbers take place to suit the fantasy, but this (and every week in the newspaper I read similar stories):

http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/14/new...tlook/index.htm

states:

"We're basically missing 5.1 million jobs at this stage of the expansion. You could even call it the case of the missing jobs," Chan said, noting the job market's now in a "different paradigm."...
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The labor market's "participation rate" -- the portion of working folks with a job or looking for one -- slid last month to its lowest level since 1988, according to the latest numbers from the Labor Department. And the number of "discouraged" workers -- people who quit looking because they couldn't find jobs -- jumped 20 percent from January 2004..."

Good luck, jocky in your claim that the recession is over.
You voted for Bush, didn't you?

 

[Jocko]

It is correct what I said then that the recession is on.
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Good luck, jocky in your claim that the recession is over.
You voted for Bush, didn't you?

You still haven't learned what a recession is, have you? Any luck finding that job? If not, then you can just redefine "food" and "rent" to suit your needs, just as you redefine "recession" to suit your needs.

That need, by the way, is your need to not confront what a hellacious goof you are. I can see it takes a lot of energy to maintain it. Tell me, how many times a day do you see the "sorry, only one post every 60 seconds" page?


ETA: Oh, Ion, thank you for correcting me on the poster who gave you that spanking. BTox was the guy, though I think RandFan was there as well. How about a link, since you've got nothing better to do?

 

[Ion]

You still haven't learned what a recession is, have you? Any luck finding that job?
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ETA: Oh, Ion, thank you for correcting me on the poster who gave you that spanking. BTox was the guy, though I think RandFan was there as well. How about a link, since you've got nothing better to do?

You haven't learned what recession is.

Like I said to BTox then, I repeat now to you, recession is not:

.) G.D.P. numbers that U.S. manupulates -and I gave a link then about this manipulation-;

.) unemployement numbers that U.S. manipulates -to not count people on welfare-;

but it is:

.) "We're basically missing 5.1 million jobs at this stage of the expansion...The labor market's "participation rate" -- the portion of working folks with a job or looking for one -- slid last month to its lowest level since 1988, according to the latest numbers from the Labor Department..."

-and I gave then a link with declining numbers of non farming jobs in the U.S., courtesy of the U.S. Department of Labor-.

As for me finding a job, you are -like Bush- assuming strange things from no information.
I don't know how it follows from me arguing with BTox that there is a recession in high tech, that I didn't have at that time or that I don't have now work in high tech.

But, since you are so much alike to Bush, you did vote for Bush and Bush induced recession, didn't you?

 

[Jocko]

Ion, I'm not going to rehash your silliness. Just link it and move on. You demonstrated aptly that you cannot differentiate your paranoia from reality, nor that you can even grasp a simple definition when it fails to conform to your borderline-psychotic worldview.

It's pattern behavior, and I seriously recommend that you seek medical attention for your myriad mental disorders.

BTW, it's killing you that no one's biting at your "you voted for criminal Bush" lines, ain't it?

 

[Ion]

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You demonstrated aptly that you cannot differentiate your paranoia from reality,...
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I think you jocky you demonstrated aptly that you cannot differentiate your paranoia from reality.

For example, paranoia you associate with is "War on terror", "Iraq must disarm", U.N. sex scandal when you have a bigger U.S. sex scandal exposed in this thread, and much more.

See what you achieve when voting for criminal Bush?

 

[Jocko]

I think you jocky you demonstrated aptly that you cannot differentiate your paranoia from reality.

I think you can no longer differentiate things said TO you from things said BY you. Typical of a dissociative disorder, and not surprising.

For example, paranoia you associate with is "War on terror", "Iraq must disarm", U.N. sex scandal when you have a bigger U.S. sex scandal exposed in this thread, and much more.

More? Got any more elderly rape porn sites you'd like to offer? Perhaps you could scour your bookmarks for bestiality while you're at it. Or incest. Or maybe (shiver) hairy women. I hear Euros are into those. Come on, let's see your proof, and I prefer to not use a credit card to view it, thanks.

See what you achieve when voting for criminal Bush?

Yup. You go completely off the runway. Keep going, this is gold.

 

[Ion]

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More? Got any more elderly rape porn sites you'd like to offer?
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Well no porn sites, ask U.S. soldiers in Iraq under Commander in Chief Bush's watch to satisfy your interest in porn sites, but there is more paranoia on your side dissociating you from reality, here:

.) "Freedom fries";

.) the French don't have the equivalent of the word entrepreneur according to a 'bright' Bush;

.) "Old Europe" according to 'brilliant' Bush who later on discovers he needs the values from this "Old Europe";

.) "U.N. is obsolete" according to 'smarty' Bush in April 2003, but U.N.'s help is what he begs for in October 2003 and February 2004;

.) and much more.

See jocky what happens when you vote for Bush?

 

[Jocko]

Relax, Ion, your obsession with Bush is getting a bit disturbing. Especially your obsession with elderly bush. I'd pay real money to see your browser cache right now.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Well no porn sites, ask U.S. soldiers in Iraq under Commander in Chief Bush's watch to satisfy your interest in porn sites, but there is more paranoia on your side dissociating you from reality, here:
blah blah blah

Say Scrotchy,

How goes the Ohio vote rigging investigation? When will Kerry be installed in office?

 

[Ion]

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Relax, Ion, your obsession with Bush is getting a bit disturbing.
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I honestly think you underestimate dammage that happens under Bush.

When I post information about rapes, recession, lies, failures, worship of corporate profits, aggression and exploitation of a foreign country, take this at face value, like if it happens close to you, so that you can relate to it.

Consider that I grew up as a rebel to Ceausescu's communist Romania, and after education in Romania, France and Canada, when I came to the U.S. and people were saying in 2001 that they would prefer the Canadian Prime Minister Chretien to Bush I scolded them that at the U.S. Presidency's level there are higher standards.

I made a U-turn about this February 2003 when Bush's messanger to U.N., Powell, lied in U.N. about Iraq, and I am being sincerely disappointed since.

 

[Ion]

Say Scrotchy,

How goes the Ohio vote rigging investigation? When will Kerry be installed in office?

Speak much English, Scrotch?

 

[Jocko]

I honestly think you underestimate dammage that happens under Bush.

When I post information about rapes, recession, lies, failures, worship of corporate profits, aggression and exploitation of a foreign country, take this at face value, like if it happens close to you, so that you can relate to it.

No, because emotionalizing things does nothing to improve one's reasoning. This is a problem, a serious problem, you suffer from.

Consider that I grew up as a rebel to Ceausescu's communist Romania, and after education in Romania, France and Canada, when I came to the U.S. and people were saying in 2001 that they would prefer the Canadian Prime Minister Chretien to Bush I scolded them that at the U.S. Presidency's level there are higher standards.

I made a U-turn about this February 2003 when Bush's messanger to U.N., Powell, lied in U.N. about Iraq, and I am being sincerely disappointed since.

So what? I am equally disappointed in Chretien for his own poor choices of words and deeds over his term. Big effing deal, everyone has an opinion, you're the only one who confuses it with fact.

 

[Garrette]

Ion,

Can you please explain to me why the "soldiers" in your Americans-rape-Iraqis-and-Afghanis pic are wearing woodland (green) camouflage uniforms when the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan actually wear the desert (brown/tan) camouflage uniforms?

I have an idea about the answer.

 

[Ion]

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So what? I am equally disappointed in Chretien for his own poor choices of words and deeds over his term. Big effing deal, everyone has an opinion, you're the only one who confuses it with fact.

No, you confuse my opinion with fact.

I never said I am proud of Chretien.

I just show I am not proud of Bush, but I never said I am proud of Chretien.

 

[Ion]

Ion,

Can you please explain to me why the "soldiers" in your Americans-rape-Iraqis-and-Afghanis pic are wearing woodland (green) camouflage uniforms when the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan actually wear the desert (brown/tan) camouflage uniforms?

I have an idea about the answer.

I answered before that I have doubts about that link.

However the other link that I posted, the link that I posted three times, that one has a U.S. inquiry by Taguba that testifies about rape in Iraq.

 

[Elind]

Reports of US troops, amongst other things, sexually assaulting villagers in Afghanistan. It's from an Australian documentary made last year.

http://www.journeyman.tv/download.php?id=10258

I took a gamble and spent 30 minutes watching that. Interesting reality scenes but pretty pitiful really, as a journalistic effort. Not surprising that it impressed demon.

For the benefit of those with less time to spare, here's a synopsis.

An Australian woman journalist embedded with US marines in the Afghan outback gets bored with all the relatively mild and even friendly encounters she films and decides to go off and freelance for juicier fare instead. She hires a translator guide and off she goes.

She finds the one man arrested earlier (in her presence) for possessing weapons and doesn't make any note of the fact that he is back home, relaxed, and complains mainly of being "hassled" with searches.

She founds some more old MEN (look like 70's?) who complained of being strip searched and humiliated and even "violated" (boy, those 18 year old marines must be really frustrated, which I'm sure explains that).

She finds another group who say most of the villagers have been driven to Pakistan by the "humiliation" (not bombing) and in the same sentence says there is no one left to look after the children. She didn't notice anything strange about that comment.

She then concludes, in one of those soft accent documentary voices, a bunch of drivel, which could have been written by demon, about how the whole process in Afghanistan was heading for failure.

If this is an example of Australian journalism I feel sorry for the folks down under, but I suspect it's the typical aberration that demon types use to form their opinions.

 

[Ion]

Maybe this:

I took a gamble and spent 30 minutes watching that. Interesting reality scenes but pretty pitiful really, as a journalistic effort. Not surprising that it impressed demon.
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is good enough for your swamp over there in Florida.

The link I posted has a U.S. inquiry that establishes rape in Iraq.

 

[Elind]

Maybe this:

is good enough for your swamp over there in Florida.

The link I posted has a U.S. inquiry that establishes rape in Iraq.

Good for you.

Do you think anyone maintains Americans can't commit crimes, including rape?

However when proven we tend to do something about it. Unfortunately some people, apparently also you by your tone, think this drivel from an Aussie with a predefined agenda constitutes proof of anything significant.

The only thing that surprises me about demon's "evidence" is that we didn't hear of the obligiatory wedding party celebrations that the Iraqis have interrupted so frequently.

Now what is your point, exactly; and when were you last in Florida? It must seem like a far away land to you.

 

[Ion]

Good for you.

Do you think anyone maintains Americans can't commit crimes, including rape?
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But that's the point of what demon and me we post.

The thread pompously starts about U.N. wrongdoing, but that saying of pot calls kettle back -or something similarly said, I am not sure in English- applies to it.

The saying is also present in "Regime change begins at home." when pompous U.S. mingles in different countries and attacks them without being threatened.

Also present in the oil-for-food scandal in U.N., but Cheney's Halliburton was contributing to that scandal when Cheney was C.E.O..

This reminds me of the hypocrisy going on here:

chickenhawks like Jocko in this thread support the U.S. involvement in Iraq, voted for Bush in November 2004 based on this war in Iraq, but ironically U.S. lacks in troops because Jocko doesn't want to go to Iraq.

So, Jocko voted for the war, and at the same time there are no troops because he doesn't want to go.

Chickenhawk, who sits in a chair, 'writing his memoirs' but doesn't stand up for what he yaps about.