Oliver
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http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=5855
and Thrillclown will not be amused, i guess.
Is this the beginning of another truth war? At least, JDXRussel Pickering at LCF said:I have decided to write this out in advance so you have the opportunity to observe and think for yourselves about some of the things going on and the things that will go on.
I have become privy to certain opinions of me and even Loose Change. I will be 100% honest here about certain opinions and what I think is happening. Take it with a grain of salt but do observe and think.
The first thing about some of the claims I hear is that I have infiltrated LC and am manipulating Dylan. This is 100% untrue. Dylan and I speak very infrequently. I have had no input into the film that I wasn't asked my opinion on. Dylan is his own person and has his own mind. In fact, others have tried to get their point of view into the film - but not me.
The only influence I have had on the Pentagon section is the suggestion that it show all the theories side by side - including the flyover idea. Then I suggested that the film not take a personal position but blame the government for the existing controversy. That is based on the fact they won't release data.
Any other work I have done is in the interest of checking facts and trying to make the film debunkable. That's it. No conspiracy or plot despite what paranoid minds are trying to convince you of.
As a part of that, people are plotting to make me out to be an agent. I can only say as I have many times - that is 100% false. Dylan asked me to stay at these forums after Rob ripped them apart and appealed to Invision to have them shut down. Now why would somebody who is operating anonymously to the general public and who had only 5 months into the 9/11 movement want to come in here and be an admin and then try to have the forums of the number 1 9/11 movie shut down?
At that time Merc had plans to take his research to a new level and have a roadshow. Rob was building membership to a LC look-alike forum and planning his own film making venture.
So now between the 2 of them that refer to each other as "brother" sites we have a look-alike forum, a new website, 3 new films and a fourth on the way. Hmmmmm?
But yet after being banned at least twice each, they still want to force their way back in here to attack me and disrupt the forums? I have allowed them back so they could have a voice. Bad idea?
We did not have this kind of activity here since the last time they were both here have we? Now it is an instant replay. Attacks on me, paranoid suspicions, accusations, self-promotion and attempts to divide. Hmmmm?
The one thing I have warned Dylan about is to watch what happens preceding the release of LCFC. There is no doubt that attempts to disrupt it will be made. I have told Dylan the forums will be the end place that interested viewers of the film will go to get more information. People will watch a 2 hour film but they might spend 4 hours here.
My original goal in being an admin was to have these forums a place where free-thinking grown ups could actually come and learn. That is why we tried to allow a diversity of ideas and up the level of communication. I am starting to feel that is futile because of those people that are emotionally and mentally predisposed to hard core fantasy conspiracy theories. Those are the people who like cult leaders are also the ones that work day and night to be the ones influencing people's minds.
So now for some reason they want to be back here - they actually connive and insist on being back here. Ask yourself, if this is such a bad place why do they need to be here and try to dominate as in the past?
Rob and Merc are both egomanics and very vindictive. They were both banned justifiably for unacceptable behavior. Merc wants to be the top dog in Pentagon research and imagine he has actually solved the case. Rob (who has less than a year researching) wants to control all data related to the Pentagon plane. They have put massive amounts of energy into promoting themselves.
Instead of attacking me, demand that Rob release all of the FDR data publicly and try to get him to answer three questions:
1) If the FDR is altered - what is the original source of the data?
2) Why would the government plant data that contradicts the official story?
3) What is the track angle true of the plane?
Then ask yourself exactly what the government has supplied in response to PFT's demands. I mean what have they accomplished except for self-promotion?
Instead of attacking me, demand to see ALL of Merc and Lyte's 13 unedited interviews. If this is the truth and they were 100% honest with you - they would do that. Ask yourself what they want to hide. Then demand 3 answers from them.
1) Why can't we see all the footage?
2) Why didn't they clarify with Robert when they had the opportunity to find out what his actions were in the Citgo video?
3) What about the mechanical damage to the area?
So now that both of these groups - CIT and PFT - have weaseled their way back in here to attack me and disrupt the forums you can get your chance to see.
I have no books. I have no movies. I don't push my site. I present data of an impact for people to consider or explain how it was faked. I have not started threads or pushed even that POV while waiting for Pentacon to come out. I don't self promote. I have zero control over what goes in LCFC. I don't make any money at this. I can go on but you get the point. I PROMISE you any thoughts you or anybody else has of me being an agent are 100% DELUSIONAL. It is not real.
The bottom line is that a real plane hit the Pentagon just like at the towers. All 3 were most likely remotely guided. Did they reinforce the Pentagon wall to fly over it?
The CIT flyover is purely fictional.
The manipulation of the FDR data by PFT is dishonest.
All of this should be considered and understood - but anybody telling you they have figured everything out and that you should follow them and watch/buy their products (snake oil) are the ones to be held in suspicion.
I am not saying they are agents - but their data is misinformation. 100%.
They will manipulate behind the scenes to rise to power here. They will push their theories and attack whoever gets in the way of promoting themselves. Just watch and see.
As I fade out over time, eventually you will clearly observe the methodology of these groups. It is and will not be me who disrupts Loose Change.
The government is very happy with both of these groups because what they are selling you is not true.
Observe and think!
and Thrillclown will not be amused, i guess.
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