Another staged attack on a teabagger whacko?

[Flanger]

Hmmm. So I guess those kids should have punched Etheridge according to the logic of some in this thread.

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[kevinquinnyo]

The idiot was shoving a camera in Spencer's face. He appears to have been between Spencer and his vehicle when Spencer was attempting to leave the area. False imprisonment in some jurisdictions. His demeanor was clearly threatening. Punching him out was an acceptable response.

So, he did punch him, but it was the right thing to do.

And, if he was just punched in the face by someone so much his physical superior, how was he able to talk so clearly and calmly when he confronted Spencer in his vehicle. Doesn't add up.

So he didn't punch him, it was all just some sort of conspiracy. CGI, or perhaps Spencer was paid to pretend to punch him?

Also, this idiot is the head of a media company of some sort. He filmed spencer from several angles and distances, but didn't bother to film him when he was confronting his wife in a hostile manner? WTF?

So Tabor has edited the film to his liking. Is that the conspiracy, then?

I think loser boy Tabor wanted to earn some street cred for standing up to a "union thug" so that he wouldn't get so thoroughly trounced in his next run for elected office.

Ahhh, so Tabor wanted to earn some street cred, so he somehow faked the whole thing in one or all of the above, contradictory conspiracy theories you've alluded to.

How about making up your mind which conspiracy theory you want to run with first, make sure they don't directly contradict each other, and then we will tell you exactly how stupid it is and why.

 

[Neally]

How about making up your mind which conspiracy theory you want to run with first, make sure they don't directly contradict each other, and then we will tell you exactly how stupid it is and why.

I'm going to go with the idea that they're all stupid. As to why? Anything activity right of center in Lefties world is by definition, wackadoodle, and defacto conspiratorial, facts be damned.

 

[bynmdsue]

Thread title says "Another". What are the others?

 

[The Painter]

Thread title says "Another".

It also says "staged". What part was staged?

 

[Snide]

It also says "staged". What part was staged?

It was followed by a question mark, which by today's media rules precludes any need to offer evidence of it actually happening.

 

[leftysergeant]

Sweet Jesus! The guy was assaulted, a felony crime.

There is no proof of that beyond the word of the idiot congresscritter wannabe who is too wierd to get elected in a solidly Republican state. That he edited the video so crudely suggests that he is full of beans. He was between Spencer and his vehicle and he is part of a group that is known to act irrationally and display delusional ideation.

In short, Spencer (and most people who know anything about teabaggers and Tabor) have reasonable grounds to consider him a lunatic. When a lunatic suddenly goes ballistic in your face, it is totally reasonable to feel that you are being threatened.

If you or Michael Moore, Rachel Madsow or Keith Doberman got punched you would totally reverse polarity and start attacking the black guy.

If any leftwinger stuck a camera in a whackadoodle rightwingers face and refused to let him leave the scene and got punched out, I would take the same position, and criticize them for a lapse of judgement and tell them to stop whining about a fat lip or two.

Radical partisanship like yours will be the death of this country whether it's liberal or conservative. Emotionally irrational liberals are over the top looney tunes.

Dominionist radical rabbnle rousers who stir up shrieking monkeys who like to carry loaded weapons as a sign of their readiness to overthrow the government are a greater threat to America than all the liberals who ever marched in a protest.

Idiot boy Tabor wants to undo most of what makes America free.

 

[leftysergeant]

Thread title says "Another". What are the others?

Kenny Gladney.

 

[DC]

freedom to punch people in the face?

freedom of fists.

 

[leftysergeant]

So, he did punch him, but it was the right thing to do..QUOTE]

When you feel intimidated and endangered, yes.

So he didn't punch him, it was all just some sort of conspiracy. CGI, or perhaps Spencer was paid to pretend to punch him?

Spencer acted withion the LIMIT of the law. And he didn't even put much into the punch, obviously, or that whacko Tabor wouldn't have been able to follow him to the car and further annoy him. When threatened, you are expected to apply only such force as is needed to deal with the situation. Spencer is obviously capable of feeding Tabor his own knee caps, but was satisfied with convioncing the snot to get out of his way. Had Spencer gotten out of the car and shown Tabor how to make a sex toy of his camera, Tabor would have actually has something of substance against him.

Now, I find it interesting that Tabor is outraged that the magistrate charged him as well. Could it be that the magistrate knows something about the situation that the right is shrugging off? Or that he knows Tabor to be barking mad?

So Tabor has edited the film to his liking. Is that the conspiracy, then?

No, it's a felony.

 

[kevinquinnyo]

Spencer acted withion the LIMIT of the law. And he didn't even put much into the punch, obviously, or that whacko Tabor wouldn't have been able to follow him to the car and further annoy him. When threatened, you are expected to apply only such force as is needed to deal with the situation. Spencer is obviously capable of feeding Tabor his own knee caps, but was satisfied with convioncing the snot to get out of his way. Had Spencer gotten out of the car and shown Tabor how to make a sex toy of his camera, Tabor would have actually has something of substance against him.

If Spencer's goal was to "get to his car," he could have done so without punching another man in the face.

Instead he engaged the crowd of people, and then, punched a man in the face who was holding on to a camera with one hand, and couldnt reasonably defend himself.

It's interesting that you defend this guy, given what we know right now.

No, it's a felony.

It's a felony to do what exactly?

 

[leftysergeant]

If Spencer's goal was to "get to his car," he could have done so without punching another man in the face.

How? There was a ranting lunatic between him and the vehicle.

Instead he engaged the crowd of people, and then, punched a man in the face who was holding on to a camera with one hand, and couldnt reasonably defend himself.

What was the lunatic doing with his free hand? Was he pushing Spencer?

It's a felony to do what exactly?

It's a felony to alter criminal evidence.

 

[applecorped]

Jail time!!! Just like Pimp Boy............oh wait.

 

[leftysergeant]

Jail time!!! Just like Pimp Boy............oh wait.

Pimp boy never tried to have anyone arrested.

I wish he had. We'd be rid of the slimeball for a while.

 

[eeyore1954]

Originally Posted by Pardalis
If I were to say you are a nutcase, would I be allowed to hit you in the face?

You don't have evidence of that. There is evidence that Tabor is a whackadoodle.

Surely you jest.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Pimp boy never tried to have anyone arrested.

He never tried to tap a senators phone line either.

 

[Tricky]

Numerous posts (including one of my own) moved to AAH for bickering, off-topic, ad hom, and general incivility. Calm it down folks and address the issue and not the other posters.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Tricky

 

[leftysergeant]

Surely you jest.

Tabor is an extreme right wing religious whackadoodle.

 

[Rogue1stclass]

It is perfectly acceptable under American law to knock a fool's teeth out if he is standing between you and a point of egress while acting in a menacing fashion.

I wouldn't have punched him, though. I would have simply whipped out a .38 Special and offered to blow his danglies off if he did not get out of the path between me and my vehicle. Quite legal, actually.

Woah, there buddy.

You need to the re-read the laws of whatever state you are in, because what I bolded up there is aggraviated assault in pretty much all of them. You are not, I repeat NOT, allowed to do that. You are never, never, never, never allowed to draw your weapon, or even show your weapon and threaten violence, unless you or someone else is in reasonable and direct life-threatening danger. In other words, if that gun comes out, you better damn sure be in a situation where you think you need to fire it, and some jerk off getting in your way doesn't meet that obligation.

In fact, you aren't really allowed to just out and punch someone because they get in your way. You aren't being physically restrained at that point, and if you attempt to shove by him, he can still back away. Now, if at any point he lays hands on you, then you are free to respond in kind.

Unless you are carrying a gun. See, just having the gun on you escalates the situation. It can turn a simple schoolyard type scuffle into a deadly incident. It puts you into the position of having to not only defend yourself but also your weapon. If that weapon comes loose during the fight, you have just armed your opponent and created the exact situation that you carry the gun to avoid. Therefore, it is your responsibility when carrying to avoid this kind of situation in first place. To be able to respond to a deadly threat, you give up the ability to respond to any other kind. That is the trade off.

You really need to reaquaint yourelf with the use of force before you end up in big trouble.

 

[leftysergeant]

You are never, never, never, never allowed to draw your weapon, or even show your weapon and threaten violence, unless you or someone else is in reasonable and direct life-threatening danger. In other words, if that gun comes out, you better damn sure be in a situation where you think you need to fire it, and some jerk off getting in your way doesn't meet that obligation.

As far as I can see, Tabor made physical contact with Spencer first. Tabor is a known nutbar. The grounds to fear for your safety are there.

In fact, you aren't really allowed to just out and punch someone because they get in your way. You aren't being physically restrained at that point, and if you attempt to shove by him, he can still back away. Now, if at any point he lays hands on you, then you are free to respond in kind.

As I stated above, it does appear that Tabor bought it because he had to have been in contact with Spencer to get the camera in his face at that angle.

It puts you into the position of having to not only defend yourself but also your weapon. If that weapon comes loose during the fight, you have just armed your opponent and created the exact situation that you carry the gun to avoid.

That's why I would never go mano-a-mano with teatrash. My left arm doesn't work that well for defense anyway. Artifical shoulder joint and all that.

Therefore, it is your responsibility when carrying to avoid this kind of situation in first place. To be able to respond to a deadly threat, you give up the ability to respond to any other kind. That is the trade off.

You mean not counter-protest against these modern-day Sturmabteilung wannabes? Aint gonna happen. Those of us who are not raving lunatics have the right to speak out against the slime, and the right to defend ourselves if they try to harm somebody. Bear in mind that these trash-talking idiots actually go so far as to advocate overthrowing the government if they do not get their way. Just this morning, I heard a sound bite of the Republican whackadoodle going up against Reid say that the 2nd Ammendment might be one of two remedies for the "Harry Reid problem." Maybe idiots like her need to be reminded that lefties pack, too. Part of the reason for there being a 2nd Ammendment is so that we don't have to allow these nutbars to own the sidewalks.