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Another shining Rick Perry moment

So we can add geography to the long list of things that Perry knows little about.
The guy has become a laughing stock. I hope for lots of entertainment when he starts his show on Fox News,which is where he will end up. I think his chances for another Presendential run in 2016 are minimal at best.
 
Just a little disoriented. Someone should ask him if he knows what year it is and who is President. . .
 
He looked and sounded drugged to me when he couldn't think of the word "values". Yes, we all make mistakes, but after being corrected for saying "Florida" twice, he claimed he had in fact said "Louisiana"--appeared confused or bewildered to me.

Appropriate behavior would have been to laugh it off. I think he uses painkillers for his back problems.
 
Elizabeth I said:
The guv does it again!
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Big deal. When your every word is recorded you mispeak sometimes. Well not all the articulate people here but most of us do.


Yes, we all make mistakes, but after being corrected for saying "Florida" twice, he claimed he had in fact said "Louisiana"--appeared confused or bewildered to me.
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Yes he could be drugged. He couldn't have claimed he said Louisiana because he had memorized the line before he started and in his mind thought he had said the line he had prepared. I think the people who bring up these kinds of things have never done any public speaking.

Is this much different than President Obama and the gulf ports of Charleston South Carolina, Savannah, Georgia and Jacksonville, Florida?
 
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eeyore1954 said:
Yes he could be drugged. He couldn't have claimed he said Louisiana because he had memorized the line before he started and in his mind thought he had said the line he had prepared. I think the people who bring up these kinds of things have never done any public speaking.
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I don't know. I've never done any public speaking and I'd imagine I'd make loads of mistakes if I had to, but a politician on the national stage should probably do a better job making sure his message is clear.
 
Is this much different than President Obama and the gulf ports of Charleston South Carolina, Savannah, Georgia and Jacksonville, Florida?
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Yes.
 
Olowkow said:
Yes.
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In what way.
They both probably had planned remarks and mispoke. Unless you believe Perry did not know what state he was in (I would not be surprised here if some think that is true). Do you also think President Obama believes those cities are Gulf ports?
 
eeyore1954 said:
In what way.
They both probably had planned remarks and mispoke. Unless you believe Perry did not know what state he was in (I would not be surprised here if some think that is true). Do you also think President Obama believes those cities are Gulf ports?
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I thought you were referring to the first instance, the Tonight Show, that is seen on the video linked below. I was not familiar with the second, in this video.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/tonight-show-not-the-first-time-president-obama-made-gulf-gaffe/

The first, with Leno, seemed to me to be just kind of throwing out thoughts, and I recall that some news source at the time inserted "and in" to read "and in places like Jacksonville, etc". They then retracted their correction, in order to prevent accusations of bias.

I think I assume that Obama knows enough about geography of the US to understand that he means, "All along the Gulf, and in places like..." However, the second instance is much less clear, and I think an argument can be made that he was incorrectly stating that these cites were on the Gulf. It's more likely however, that he was just spouting memorized stuff and left out some of the important links, who knows?

I remember the big flap over "you didn't build that..." during the campaign, and that one was clearly a red herring by people who don't quite understand how to read between the lines and interpret fuzzy reference in extemporaneous speaking, combined of course with an Obama aversion.

I think the Perry and the Obama lapsus are superficially similar in certain respects--memorized talking points etc. But for Perry to visit a state, after much preparation and references to La., and hopefully his staff's prodding to mention certain key Louisiana hot button issues, then absentmindedly forget where he actually has landed...that is not impossible to imagine. But it is downright odd to then say that he had said "Louisiana", rather than "...what did I say? I meant Louisiana. Sorry. Haven't had my coffee yet.:)"

It is also true that is is odd that Obama would leave such an obvious error hanging, but I generally think he has a lot on his mind and may often be speaking on autopilot--could be the same for Perry, sure, but his need for painkillers troubles me.

It's just too much of a stretch to seriously propose that Obama doesn't know which cities are not Gulf ports, and to then think that had Leno confronted him with, "Gulf Ports, really?" and have him say in surprised disbelief, "No, those cities are not Gulf Ports, what are you talking about?" I would think it would be reason for some to raise their eyebrows.

I suppose I give Obama the benefit of the doubt because of his obvious speaking skills, vocabulary and intelligence, while in the case of Perry I don't, largely because of his previous behavior of seeming not to care about facts, and his reliance on supernatural notions and biblical superstitious nonsense in his governing.

These cases are more of a question of a man's ability for coherent thinking than any question of intelligence or political ingenuity.
 
eeyore1954 said:
Big deal. When your every word is recorded you mispeak sometimes. Well not all the articulate people here but most of us do.
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It's not so much the mis-speaking (as you say, anyone can do that, and I often pointed out that Jimmy Carter, a "nucular" engineer, said "nucular" at least as often as Bush did), as the insistence that he did not say the wrong thing.
 
It happens. He should have just owned up to it like he did with "Oops".

In the last or second last day or so of the 2008 campaign, Obama did misnamed the state he was in and handled it well.
 
eeyore1954 said:
In what way.
They both probably had planned remarks and mispoke. Unless you believe Perry did not know what state he was in (I would not be surprised here if some think that is true). Do you also think President Obama believes those cities are Gulf ports?
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Well, there is one key difference - the media covers for Obama:

...The Associated Press wrongly inserted an interpretive phrase in parentheses into a quote by Obama: "If we don't deepen our ports all along the Gulf — (and in) places like Charleston, S.C., or Savannah, Ga., or Jacksonville, Fla. — if we don't do that, these ships are going to go someplace else and we'll lose jobs," Obama said. ...
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Shhhhh.

ETA: In honor of the AP, I've decided to edit Perry's statement in order to present what he really intended to say:

There are many other states that embrace those conservative values, the approach that we’ve taken over the years. I’m in one today – in (Louisiana). You look at South Carolina. You look at Florida...
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All better. No need to get people riled up, we know what he meant. It's important to focus on intent, rather than spending our time nitpicking.
 
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mikedenk said:
Well, there is one key difference - the media covers for Obama:




Shhhhh.

ETA: In honor of the AP, I've decided to edit Perry's statement in order to present what he really intended to say:



All better. No need to get people riled up, we know what he meant. It's important to focus on intent, rather than spending our time nitpicking.
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Um, no.

You deleted something Perry said. AP didn't.

Here's how you fix it:
There are many other states that embrace those conservative values, the approach that we’ve taken over the years. I’m in one today – in Florida (really Louisiana but I'm not sure where I am). You look at South Carolina. You look at Florida...I said Louisiana (even though I didn't).
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Spindrift said:
Um, no.

You deleted something Perry said. AP didn't.

Here's how you fix it:
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Hardly fair and balanced. Remember: intent, not nitpicking. Simple geographical errors are clearly unintentional and should be wiped away. Easy day.
 
For the most part it seems to me if a conservative misspoke they are an idiot, they don't know geography, they are doped up on pain pills, etc, etc
If President Obama puts the Port of Jacksonville in the Gulf or talks about the 57 states he misspoke but he is a great orator anyway.
 
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