Another School Shooting, time to attack Michael Moore again

[LostAngeles]

Me to. and there is extra word space that has no rhyme or reason.

If you allowed me my right to execute all suspected poets, would we have this problem? No.

 

[RandFan]

If you allowed me my right to execute all suspected poets, would we have this problem? No.

I love your avatar. Everytime I see it I think of the series "That's My Bush" on Comedy Central.

 

[Electron #1]

Well after seeing all the obtuse or rhetorical posts from

Crime Search and his Flava

Flav( Rand Fan) . Im left to wonder if gun/ car analogy

users think that they can ride to work on a handgun

like a Ford version of a pogo stick, or for that matter just

when were pogo sticks or cars built with the sole

purpose of maiming or killing a person or animal.



Its intresting to see the entire skeptical community

refered to as "we" in order to influence the participants

in a discussion.

Is it name calling or insults that make a discussion

"skeptical" ? Will the copyright holder please step up.


Can anyone explain just why the NRA would

find it in all of America's intrest ( enough to spend tax

payer funds on making legislation ) that protect

manufactuer's or distributors from civil suit

when in previous scenario they are shown to be

complacent in

providing the Washington sniper with the

weapon to not only kill with but make so difficult to track

down and identify?

( This isnt rhetorical. IM SKEPTICAL! Honest!!)



It really must be one of those world mysteries.

 

[RandFan]

It really must be one of those world mysteries.

What's a mystery is how you can accuse everyone else of being obtuse when you refuse to answer questions, back up your claims and expect everyone else to prove a negative.

It's not going very well for you 'lectron.

 

[Electron #1]

All relevant non rhetorical questions that were

asked me , have been either

explained by the links or have been

awnsered in my previous posts. While ONE of my

questions has been sorta awnsered. ( misuse?) Still only

with a opinion , a wide held opinion , but not equated

with the desire of

either manufactuer or dealer. Else passing a gun learners

exam would be a mandatory prerequisite to owning a

firearm instead of depending on Aesops fables(?)

 

[TragicMonkey]

Can anyone explain just why the NRA would find it in all of America's intrest ( enough to spend tax payer funds on making legislation ) that protect manufactuer's or distributors from civil suit when in previous scenario they are shown to be complacent in providing the Washington sniper with the
weapon to not only kill with but make so difficult to track down and identify?

Because the NRA isn't concerned about prevention of misuse or of solving crimes. Their sole concern is in keeping firearms available. They apparently think that without such legal protections, manufacturers would be forced out of business, thereby depriving the public of firearms.

I'm not saying whether they are right or wrong to promote keeping firearms available. I'm just saying that anything else is outside the scope of their organizations' interest. Which may or may not be relevant to a debate on the ethics of firearms. I'm neutral on the subject, myself.

edited to fix spacing...

 

[RandFan]

All relevant non rhetorical questions that were asked me, have been either explained by the links or have been awnsered in my previous posts.

Ahhh...No! Thanks for playing.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Ahhh...No! Thanks for playing.

Is the prize Lee Press-On Nails?

They always gave out sucky prizes on those shows.

Grand prize: a trip for five to Hawaii.

Second place: Mrs Pell's Fishsticks, and a tube of hemorrhoid cream.

 

[Jocko]

Because the NRA isn't concerned about prevention of misuse or of solving crimes. Their sole concern is in keeping firearms available.

Oh really?

They apparently think that without such legal protections, manufacturers would be forced out of business, thereby depriving the public of firearms.

I wonder where they could have gotten that silly idea? Maybe here? Or perhaps here?

. I'm neutral on the subject, myself.

Well, thank heaven for that.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Oh really?



I wonder where they could have gotten that silly idea? Maybe here? Or perhaps here?



Well, thank heaven for that.

It's Spring again, methinks I hear the gentle sound of Jocko's sarcasm.

Okay, they like to educate on hunting and gun safety and junk. My point was, they aren't vigilantes, and aren't a crime-fighting organization.

As for the threat of lawsuits to manufacturers, I never said their fears were unjustified. It seems a typical American compromise: keep guns perfectly legal, but through market forces outside government control, make it really difficult to get one. The results would be the same as a ban, but everyone would be blameless. Known as having the cake and eating the other guy's, too.

And plllllbttttt! on your rolleyes. I AM neutral, because I just don't care. I don't have a gun, and I wouldn't want one, not because of some obscure ethical reason, but because they are expensive, and I am lazy and wouldn't want to fuss with taking care of it. Knives are more practical, since you can use them for tomatos OR burglars.

 

[Jocko]

Pbbblllllttttt, huh? A pox on your simian brow! Don't think I've forgotten about the monkey menace, TM. I'm watching you.

 

[easycruise]

The truth is that the violence in schools is falling. The odds of getting shot at school are quite low. Odd since Moore argues that dying from a terrorist attack is low. Moore further argues that the media is scaring us with all of the attention on terrorism and then he scares the hell out of parents about school shooting when in reality the odds are statistically insignificant. I wonder why folks don't get that Moore's little movie does exactly what he complains about, offers no solutions and asside from being entertaining it is a big waste of time.

Here's some facts from RealClearPolitics.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-3_24_05_SC.html

 

[E.J.Armstrong]

Guns readily available in society A therefore;
Guns readily available to be stolen/misused against society A therefore;
Guns actually stolen/misused repeatedly to kill many people in Society A.
Prediction - this will happen repeatedly.

Nope, that can't be right.

Solution - make it easier to obtain guns. You know it makes sense.