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Another Mall Shooting

Guilderland, New York at Crossgates Mall, no injuries.

Guilderland police received several calls of gunshots fired from inside the mall outside of the Foot Locker shoe store.
https://www.spotlightnews.com/news/...-yet-after-gunshots-fired-at-crossgates-mall/


St. Louis, Missouri. 1 dead, 1 injured.

Granda said a dispute began inside the mall between two groups of people and led to the shooting. Granda said the relationship between the two groups of people is not known.
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/l...ation/63-8006cd08-8a83-40ed-af43-31b62419ae7c
 
Know what the common ingredient is? Malls? Homelessness? Sobriety? Race? Skin colour? Height above sea-level?

Nope.

This Venn diagram has a 100% intersection on "guns". So perhaps we can start to draw a conclusion here...

Who knew.
These are rival murderous black street gangs having a shootout in "neutral" territory.

I can talk about their guns if you want more facts, or educated speculation.
 
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Wouldn't it be better to settle this West Side Story style, with a fabulous but extended dance-off?

https://www.stagewhispers.com.au/si.../lightbox/news/WSS-Images-1600X900-image1.jpg
Violent American street gangs of all colors and stripes once did appear as if they were of West Side Story style. The original story by Arthur Laurents in 1957 is about the existing street gangs of New York City.

The weapon of choice was fists and of course those are always provided for free as a default. Balled fists are handy things.

Carried weapons run the gamut of objects. The seemingly common and iconic weapon would have been a folding knife. The most legendary and practical among the knives would be the switchblade. It's right there in West Side Story as a lethal weapon.

Guns were easily available both legally and illegally. But guns weren't a common weapon either in presence or use by the street gangs.

The street gang mission back then was almost exclusively to inflict injury on your rival enemies, but not death. A form of the "counting coup" thing.


Now the murderous street gangs commonly carry guns and the knife has almost disappeared from street gang culture. The mission is to kill the rival enemy and not to injure them.

There is much more to be said about modern violent street gangs.

Consider this topic to be Modern Anthropology, and know that this is actually science. Most specifically it is Urban Anthropology.

Again I ask; do you want to go there with me?
 
We just had a shooting at the tone-y “Galleria” mall here in St. Louis. One killed, one injured. News reports unclear on the circumstances, but it sounds very much like gang-related.
Massive police response... We even sent a couple of guys for the “active shooter” call.
 
We just had a shooting at the tone-y “Galleria” mall here in St. Louis. One killed, one injured. News reports unclear on the circumstances, but it sounds very much like gang-related.
Massive police response... We even sent a couple of guys for the “active shooter” call.
The proper term is tony, but it isn't used much.

Yes, this is murderous black gang stuff. Also nearly all of the newer mass shootings (in our Mass Shooting) are black gang. This wasn't really the case until Bogative started posting them there.

Do you find this incident to be odd or remarkable because it happened at a tony mall?
 
The Galleria, home to high-end stores like Saks, Nieman-Marcus, etc, has long engaged in a certain amount of hand-wringing along the lines of what to do about “those” people.

On one hand, they do actually spend money. On the other hand, they also like to shoplift quite a bit, or just do “grab and run” thefts with high-end merch.

There have been a number of other shooting incidents at the mall, but confined to the parking and garage areas. I believe this is the first one that involved a homicide.
 
The Galleria, home to high-end stores like Saks, Nieman-Marcus, etc, has long engaged in a certain amount of hand-wringing along the lines of what to do about “those” people.

On one hand, they do actually spend money. On the other hand, they also like to shoplift quite a bit, or just do “grab and run” thefts with high-end merch.

There have been a number of other shooting incidents at the mall, but confined to the parking and garage areas. I believe this is the first one that involved a homicide.
NM is bankrupt right now. They won't survive the pandemic. Are they still open at The Galleria?

It's easy for Security Guards to profile likely shoplifters and stay focused on them. But the shoplifters have some advanced tactics which do defeat the cashiers and loss-prevention guards. Pepper spray to the cashiers/guards face is showing itself as an upcoming trend in theft strategy and tactics.
 
Back to Mayfair Mall in Wauwatosa, Wisconsin.

8 shot and injured, but not by one of the usual suspects. Maybe that's why it's getting national attention.
 
According to the police, the perpetrator is a White male aged 20 - 30 and the shooting was to do with an 'altercation'.


Update:
A 15-year-old Hispanic boy was arrested in connection with a shooting Friday at Mayfair shopping mall that left eight people injured, Wauwatosa Police Chief Barry Weber said Sunday.
 
Arrested a 15 yr old and it was a dispute between 2 groups.

15-year-old arrested in connection with the Mayfair mall shooting
Wauwatosa police have arrested a 15-year-old Milwaukee boy who they believe opened fire at Mayfair mall Friday afternoon, sending eight to the hospital.

Police Chief Barry Weber said the suspect was arrested Saturday night and that the shooting was the result of an altercation between two groups of people at the mall.

"We do know there was some sort of altercation, and that's when the bullets started flying," Weber said during a Sunday news conference.
 
What the blazes is a 15-year-old boy doing with a gun? ....

Gang warfare.

It's not the guns, it's the gangs.

Didn't you read "God, Guns, and Gangs"? ;)

Who were the injured, more gang members? Only one shooter?
 

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