Another gun thread- Colo state senators recall petition

Some of the rural counties are talking of secession, citing the population shift from rural to urban and claiming that state lawmakers are only considering the interests of RICH city-dwellers.
Fixed that for you. If a man living in a poor neighborhood wants a gun for defense nobody in power cares. If a man living in a million dollar condo wants one, he gets it.
 
Some of the rural counties are talking of secession, citing the population shift from rural to urban and claiming that state lawmakers are only considering the interests of city-dwellers.

I have yet to see a coherent argument that an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine is necessary to run a family farm.

As for hunters, the $10 background check fee tacked on to the price of a new deer rifle or shotgun is insignificant. Especially considering that most of these weapons will outlast their owners.

It does however affect the militia movement. Rural areas have more rednecks that are arming themselves to fight the evil muslim communist black man in the White House and win America back for Christianity and the white race.

It also invokes the paranoid conspiracy theories at the core of the gun lobby argument. Let the damn liberals register your guns today and tomorrow the jack booted government thugs will break down the door and confiscate Grandpa's shotgun.

The sad part is that rural Colorado is catching the same disease that afflicts Kansas. Politicians in counties where the majority of real income comes from Social Security checks and farm subsidies complain about government interference in the free market. They don't notice that the paved roads in their county are mostly funded by gas taxes collected in the urban areas. Or the state programs that prop up rural health clinics and provide internet access for the local schools and the town library.
 
I have yet to see a coherent argument that an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine is necessary to run a family farm.

As for hunters, the $10 background check fee tacked on to the price of a new deer rifle or shotgun is insignificant. Especially considering that most of these weapons will outlast their owners.

It does however affect the militia movement. Rural areas have more rednecks that are arming themselves to fight the evil muslim communist black man in the White House and win America back for Christianity and the white race.

It also invokes the paranoid conspiracy theories at the core of the gun lobby argument. Let the damn liberals register your guns today and tomorrow the jack booted government thugs will break down the door and confiscate Grandpa's shotgun.

The sad part is that rural Colorado is catching the same disease that afflicts Kansas. Politicians in counties where the majority of real income comes from Social Security checks and farm subsidies complain about government interference in the free market. They don't notice that the paved roads in their county are mostly funded by gas taxes collected in the urban areas. Or the state programs that prop up rural health clinics and provide internet access for the local schools and the town library.

Are you aware of the fact that sporting firearms and ammunition is already subject to an 11% federal excise tax?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittman–Robertson_Federal_Aid_in_Wildlife_Restoration_Act

Locally, municipalities passed special taxation regulations that were aimed at licensed firearms dealers:

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Last-Gun-Shop-in-Oakland-Closing-Steep-tax-2713836.php

Additional taxes and/or fees on firearms ownership has long been seen as backdoor regulation of firearms possession, starting with the National Firearms Act of 1934 and the requirement for a $200.00 Tax Stamp for legal transfer or possession of a weapon or device classified by the act.
 
If the $10 background check is huge a burden, perhaps you need to be spending your money on something other than firearms.

Complaining about the $200 tax on the transfer of an automatic weapon that costs close to $10,000 is also rather silly.

ETA: As for the Federal excise tax, that goes to support programs that benefit hunters. As a hunter, I thank you for helping to protect wildlife habitat by spending most of your disposable income on weapons and ammunition. :)
 
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What Californians Against Corruption was accused of was improper documentation of campaign donations - not misuse or diversion of funds - and they were eventually hit with the largest penalty ever levied against a campaign operation.

I suspect their real crime was being effective.

I can suspect the motives of those seeking to recall the politicians. I see both sides indulging in tactics that circumvent the normal democratic process to try and get their way.
 
I can suspect the motives of those seeking to recall the politicians. I see both sides indulging in tactics that circumvent the normal democratic process to try and get their way.

The recall petitions are using gun legislation as the hook, but the real goal is to give the Republican party more control over the state senate.

Recall petitions were started against four Democrat Senators who had relatively close margins during the last election. Only two of these managed to gather the required number of signatures.

The trick is that the recall will happen during an off year election. Most of Colorado will only be voting for school boards and local offices. Republican voters tend to be older, and older voters are more likely to vote in an off year election. They may be able to win seats they couldn't when Obama was on the ballot. If they flip both seats the Democrats will still have a one vote majority in the state senate. But that would give the Republicans a much better chance to alter or stop legislation in the following year.
 
If it was just gun laws I'd be more sympathetic, but they're complaining about civil unions too. Maybe they're trying the Iran defense----"no gay people here"?
 

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