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Another cop murders a suspect

Oh look. Evidence of premeditation.

To all the lawyers: could he be prosecuted under the felony murder law if such harrassment was deemed a felony?
 
Skeptic Tank said:
What in the world are you talking about?
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I have no idea if it would apply in this case, but felony murder is a death that results from the commission of a felony, even if it was never intended: Two guys rob a store and one shoots the other purely by accident; the death is felony murder. The question -- one of them anyway -- would be whether Tensing's treatment of Dubose before the shooting amounted to illegal harassment and whether that would be a felony.
http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=741
 
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The earlier stop shown in the video (for a crack in the car's bumper) looks like an illegal stop to my layman's eyes based on my understanding of what my rights are as a citizen. The prolonged field interrogation was definitely illegal.
 
DGM said:
Shouldn't this apply to all people? It would save a lot of money on trials. :rolleyes:
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OOooohhh, I like that idea. Dash and body cams for everyone. And GPS tracer implants, given at birth! Yeah!!!

Big Brother was blind in one eye and deaf in the other. We're gonna monitor EVERYTHING.
 
DGM said:
Shouldn't this apply to all people? It would save a lot of money on trials. :rolleyes:
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"All people" don't have professions that give them huge amounts of power, including the use of lethal force in the commission of their professional duties, over the general populace.

There are no good arguments against requiring police officers to be monitored at all times when on duty.
 
luchog said:
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There are no good arguments against requiring police officers to be monitored at all times when on duty.
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I don't know what you mean by monitoring, but it's a sure bet that if a cop couldn't talk to anyone with creating a bodycam video that could be viewed publicly, no one would ever approach that cop with tips about neighborhood gangs, shady landlords, abusive parents, troubled children or anything else that a good beat cop routinely tries to find out about. Bodycams will be effective enough if recordings are stored securely and reviewed by supervisors, but accessible by the public only after complaints against particular officers in connection with specific incidents.
 
From the linked story:

http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/08/2014-officer-ray-tensing-video-cincinnati/

"Tensing, 25, can be seen in the video arguing with the men, and violating their rights. That’s why they decided to record the illegal traffic stop, to document the encounter and protect themselves from the aggressive cop who is not being charged with the murder of Sam DuBose."

Is this true, or a typo?
 
Bob001 said:
I don't know what you mean by monitoring, but it's a sure bet that if a cop couldn't talk to anyone with creating a bodycam video that could be viewed publicly, no one would ever approach that cop with tips about neighborhood gangs, shady landlords, abusive parents, troubled children or anything else that a good beat cop routinely tries to find out about.
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Patently false. Particularly since those tips and complaints are generally called in to a local station number or 911, rather than face-to-face with cops on the streets.

Bodycams will be effective enough if recordings are stored securely and reviewed by supervisors, but accessible by the public only after complaints against particular officers in connection with specific incidents.
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No one is saying otherwise; with the exception that there should be a civilian oversight board to avoid the problem of internal coverups.
 
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