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Another "Chi" demonstration

As I said this thread is going nowhere. Especially when no one reads, and are taking meaning out of the contexts. The only thing this thread can do is to loop.
Can you please explain how "Aspect forsøket" proves you right?

When is a triangle not 180 degrees?

How is "Everything is consciousness, one mind" falsifiable?
 
Evolution science DOES NOT claim that humans evolved from apes.

I suppose no evolutionary scientist would ever have referred to the series of apes linking a modern human to a modern chimpanzee then?
 
Hmmm... here's a question. (I'm still on the triangles) Isn't he kind of right about the triangles? Not that his nutball ramblings are even slightly plausible, or even entertaining at this point, but isn't it true that triangles in the real world don't have 180 degrees? I recall reading some random book that said the universe is slightly curved (either elliptic or hyperbolic) and so only approximately followed Euclidean geometry. And that everything seems Euclidean for the same reason the world seems flat when you look around, that being that the curviture is only very slight. Am I just misremembering an outdated book? Should I take this to the science forum?
 
Can you please explain how "Aspect forsøket" proves you right?
Proves what right?

When is a triangle not 180 degrees?
Read 1st post by Alpha
http://www.antipsykopat.org/miniBB/index.php?topic=11944.0

How is "Everything is consciousness, one mind" falsifiable?
What?

The entire Universe of which we are integral aspects is a vast expanse of Energy vibrating at different rates from the lowest vibration of matter to the highest vibration of The Source, The First Cause, God. The illusion of separation is perpetuated by virtue of the way in which Mind perceives and decodes these vibrations. So "things" only exist because we observe them and out Mind decodes the vibrations of the Energy of the "Thing" being observed. Without this observation, the "thing" being observed cannot exist, except as a probability within the vast expanse of Energy constituting the Universe. So everything in the Universe is a probability of existence until such time as it is observed its Energy is decoded by the Mind, at which point the probability becomes and actuality while it is being observed, after which it becomes a probability once again.

The above paragraph is originally from here http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/advice/t-8710.html Do not post someone else's words as your own.
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universe is slightly curved (either elliptic or hyperbolic) and so only approximately followed Euclidean geometry. And that everything seems Euclidean for the same reason the world seems flat when you look around
The universe is as flat as a pancake.
 
Someone was gonna teach me about neurons, and I showed to Quanta as it is only something senseble and are not something that calculates.
Many things can't be calculated precisely as of yet, and perhaps never can. Does meteorology also suggest the presence of astral planes and souls?

QM is not generating free will.
That's right, and your hero Bohm proposed a deterministic approach to QM in his first book, and Einstein was thrilled because he didn't believe in free will either, like me. I have yet to see something that justifies free will, and astral planes and bronze age mythology just doesn't cut it for me.

Where does it say Bohm proposed that?
It doesn't say that in your silly second hand paper, but that is in fact what Bohm claimed.
What data gives the fallacy that the world isn't hologram?
Wrong, you're asking me to provide evidence for a negative. That's not how the party works. You claim, and then the burden of evidence is on you.

Notice the psychopath projects his inner state on me without making arguments. Classic.
I'm not the one who thinks I can torture animals because they have no soul and therefore feel no pain. Someone should lock you up.

ETA: I'm tired of your ramblings, answer Claus' questions (I'm sure there will be many more), because he has a stamina for baloney that I lack. Good luck.
 
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Proves what right?

Proves you right.

Do you have trouble keeping track of things? Not just here, but elsewhere as well?


In your own words, please.


If you can't falsify it, how can you know if it is wrong?

The entire Universe of which we are integral aspects is a vast expanse of Energy vibrating at different rates from the lowest vibration of matter to the highest vibration of The Source, The First Cause, God. The illusion of separation is perpetuated by virtue of the way in which Mind perceives and decodes these vibrations. So "things" only exist because we observe them and out Mind decodes the vibrations of the Energy of the "Thing" being observed. Without this observation, the "thing" being observed cannot exist, except as a probability within the vast expanse of Energy constituting the Universe. So everything in the Universe is a probability of existence until such time as it is observed its Energy is decoded by the Mind, at which point the probability becomes and actuality while it is being observed, after which it becomes a probability once again.

Reported for possible copyright violation.

You're going up the river, mate.
 
Many things can't be calculated precisely as of yet, and perhaps never can.
Nothing happens by random. Something is what it is and can be identified -- Axiom. Without we could not have logic, everything would be chaos and happen without cause.

That's right, and your hero Bohm proposed a deterministic approach to QM in his first book
That was not his view in discussions with Jiddu Krishnamurti.

I have yet to see something that justifies free will
You should join the million dollar prize since someone made you type.

astral planes
People are there every night. Some wakes up being in a dreampool, and sometimes takes over the dream, acting by free will without the observable changing. Some can fly, and some fly straight up ending in the Astral world out of the preprogrammed dreampool.

Almost 1/3 of the world population will without having attempted to do so experience the different Astral planes and having OBE's, and some will wake up in a paralized body with seeing things that shouldn't be there. There are many free examples of how to achieve OBE and Astral visiting. All sceptics just arrogantly ignores this and claims there are no proof. It is like saying I can never drive a car because I won't try.

Wrong, you're asking me to provide evidence for a negative.
Your statement your burden of evidence.

I'm not the one who thinks I can torture animals
Did I say one should? I said it is not called murder which you... ignored.

therefore feel no pain.
You have still not counter-argued.

Someone should lock you up.
The last resort is use of violence. Get rid of those who can unmask the psychopaths hiding behind their evil etical non-existent world. They will at anytime sacrifice innocents behind their double standards.

Hypernicus-calling other forum members "psychpaths" is hardly civil behaviour. Stop it now. Incivil comments removed.
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Proves you right.
You are not asking the right question.

Do you have trouble keeping track of things? Not just here, but elsewhere as well?
Incivil comment removed.
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In your own words, please.
You said you could read Norwegian.

If you can't falsify it, how can you know if it is wrong?
What is false; a statement, a theory, a leading clue?

Reported for possible copyright violation.
Which one?
 
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You are not asking the right question.

You don't get to decide what questions I ask. Answer the question.

The psychopath asks by insinuating.

You are way out of line.

You said you could read Norwegian.

And I can. I am asking for you to explain yourself, and not "borrow" the words of others.

What is false; a statement, a theory, a leading clue?

Not false. Falsify. You don't know what falsification means?

Which one?

The quote that starts with "The entire Universe of which we are integral aspects".
 
The edit button is gone. I can't give quote-honor on post 264. I quoted Adrian Cooper by the way.
 
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Nothing happens by random. Something is what it is and can be identified -- Axiom. Without we could not have logic, everything would be chaos and happen without cause.
I'm a determinist, and although I find the things you mention non sequitur, then I'm not gonna make a big deal out of it, as I more or less stopped carrying about what you think several posts ago.
That was not his view in discussions with Jiddu Krishnamurti.
I suspect peace-loving Bohm to have lost his good mind after some of his work was made classified and used by the Manhattan Project to develop the atomic bomb. And furthermore after he was prosecuted by the Un-American Activities Commitee, fired from his position and eventually running off to Brazil.

You should join the million dollar prize since someone made you type.
Determinism is not "someone".

People are there every night. Some wakes up being in a dreampool, and sometimes takes over the dream, acting by free will without the observable changing. Some can fly, and some fly straight up ending in the Astral world out of the preprogrammed dreampool.
Yea, Peter Pan and Superman, and people dreaming or hallucinating. That's not evidence of anything else than just that.
Almost 1/3 of the world population will without having attempted to do so experience the different Astral planes and having OBE's, and some will wake up in a paralized body with seeing things that shouldn't be there. There are many free examples of how to achieve OBE and Astral visiting.
OBEs is not evidence of a soul or astral planes either, in dreams people often mix experienced events, like when you make a pegasus out of a horse and the wings of a bird. Human brains are good at that. And if you wake up paralized or non-paralized and see things that are not there, then it is because your brain is mixing reality with dreams. This is not evidence of astral worlds in any manner.
All sceptics just arrogantly ignores this and claims there are no proof. It is like saying I can never drive a car because I won't try.
Skeptics will usually remain doubtful untill evidence of extraordinary claims are produced. If a mind is too open, then it serves as an invitation for charlatans, hustlers and quacks to fill it with garbage.

Your statement your burden of evidence.
The only "evidence" you have offered to suggest animals have no experience of pain, is that they don't scream like humans. The burden is still yours because all parts of it are but childish and ignorant claims.

Humans and animals share the same mechanism of feeling pain, and the few times I have stepped on some of my cats by accident they have certainly screamed. But of course, all this takes place in a strange and distant dimension called the real world.

Did I say one should? I said it is not called murder which you... ignored.
I don't care what you call killing an animal, it doesn't change what you do.

You have still not counter-argued.
I have been as generous as to explain it with simple examples and in simple terms for you above, although the burden of evidence still is yours.
The last resort is use of violence. Get rid of those who can unmask the psychopaths hiding behind their evil etical non-existent world. They will at anytime sacrifice innocents behind their double standards.
Yes, skeptics are pretty evil psychopaths who always resort to violence in lack of proper arguments. And we just love to sacrifice the innocent. And I'm done with you.
 
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Yelp of Pain

It releaves stress from the pressure.

Animals don't scream of pain because they can't feel it, and if they can't feel it is because they have no consciousness. You can't feel something if you are not aware of it.

I have already defined human and animal. The only language psychopaths are using is nominalism.

I've heard animals scream of pain many times. Actually, with a dog it's called a yelp of pain. There was even a recent study that found fish feel the pain of a hook even though they can't scream or make facial expressions.

How can you be certain a dog does not feel pain?
 
The fact that a triangle's angles sum up to 180 degrees (plus all the other facts of geomotery) got us to the moon, got Hypernicus's computer on the Internet, and gave us a million other things we take for granted. That's amply evidence that Euclid was right an Hypernicus is blowing smoke.
 
The Hypernicus Code

Are you psychopath?

Here's a pattern I've discovered to understand Hypernicus when he doesn't answer a question directly. It's good for yes/no questions.

YES - Hypernicus refuses to answer. When I asked if he was the same Hypernicus as on the Astral Pulse forume, he never answered. That meant "yes."

NO - Hypernicus calls you a psychopath. That was his response when I suggested he was Indigo.
 
Here's a pattern I've discovered to understand Hypernicus when he doesn't answer a question directly. It's good for yes/no questions.

YES - Hypernicus refuses to answer. When I asked if he was the same Hypernicus as on the Astral Pulse forume, he never answered. That meant "yes."
True, he has basically ignored all solid refutes. Especially the Zeno paradox refutes, the inconclusiveness of Aspects experiment due to local hidden variables (although his second hand paper use this experiment as initial justification), and the several points made about evolution and mathematics by other posters who perhaps considered him reasonable for a brief moment.

NO - Hypernicus calls you a psychopath. That was his response when I suggested he was Indigo.
Everyone who disagree with him in one way or the other are evil psychopaths. And this remind me of a notorious fruitcake from the city I grew up in. He was well famous for constantly stating that "the whole world had gone crazy!!!".. Of course, it would have been easier to listen to him if he hadn't had this fetish for riding his bicycle around in the neighbourhood; naked with a tea cozy on his head.

The irony of lunatics is breathtaking.

"The whole woooorld has gone crazy!!" is now a catchphrase among my old friends :)

ETA: I'm done with Hypernicus, first it was funny, but then it became sort of sad :o
 
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