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Another Assassination Attempt Fails

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RASTENBURG, EAST PRUSSIA, JULY 20th, 1944. (Rueters).

The spiritual leader of Nazism, the prematurely old and frail Mr. Adolf Hitler, survived an assassination attempt today, as a bomb planted under his chair exploded prematurely. Mr. Hitler, who could not be reached for official comment, reportedly said to his aids that, in retaliation, he will kill thousands of the "traitors" who participated in the attempt.

The European Union condemned the attack, claiming it would only "increase the cycle of violence", and goes against the general law that leaders are immune from attack.

They also noted that real control of day-to-day events has been slipping out of Mr. Hitler's hands for quite a while now, concentrating more and more in figures like Mr. Himmler, the SS chief, and Mr. Speer, the armament minister, making such an attack "senseless" from the political point of view, and one that could only "infuriate the Germans" and "deteriorate an already-comlicated situations".

The secretary-general of the UN, reached by time machine, asked for a special UN session to condemn the attack on Mr. Hitler as "not constructive", warning that, had it succeeded, it could have created a "power vacuum in the German authority", and perhaps even "pushed Germany into the hands of the radicals", among which he named Mr. Goebbles and Mr. Himmler.

The honorable secretary also reiterated his opposition to Britian's "extremist" demand for "unconditional surrender". "Such language merely widens the circle of violence and radicalizes the enemy", insisted the secretary.

(Damn, I'm getting good at this... )
 
Allies goal: Exstance at any price.

Axis goal: Exstance at any price.

I don't see the difference.

However I feel that "we are behaving better than Nazis" is not much of an argument.
 
How many credibility points do you lose for starting a whole thread comparing the modern situation to the Nazis and World War II, when they clearly have so little in common? :D

Edited to add : and the second thread in a short period, I see. Is this the start of an attempt to break the record?
 
iain said:
How many credibility points do you lose for starting a whole thread comparing the modern situation to the Nazis and World War II, when they clearly have so little in common? :D

I'm not comparing the two situations (except perhaps that Yassin and Hitler both wanted all jews dead). I'm merely exposing the hypocracy of acting all shocked--SHOCKED!--that the 3rd-largest terror mastermind in the world (after OBL and Arafat) has been killed.
 
Skeptic said:


I'm not comparing the two situations (except perhaps that Yassin and Hitler both wanted all jews dead). I'm merely exposing the hypocracy of acting all shocked--SHOCKED!--that the 3rd-largest terror mastermind in the world (after OBL and Arafat) has been killed.
Who's acting shocked?
 
Mycroft said:
Allies goal: Exstance at any price.

Axis goal: Exstance at any price.

I don't see the difference.


You don't want to. It would require adopting values and making hard choices, and taking some action besides sitting on your ass preaching that the world is wrong and you have all the answers.
 
Originally posted by American
You don't want to. It would require adopting values and making hard choices, and taking some action besides sitting on your ass preaching that the world is wrong and you have all the answers.

Values:

1) Any military action is the equivalent of any other act of violence no matter what the goals, context or target are.

2) No criticism of any culture is valid unless it’s a western culture.

Hard choices:

Choosing between Hiroshima and Dresden as the historical example to cite to demonstrate that terrorist targeting civilians is not so bad.
 
Mycroft said:


Values:

1) Any military action is the equivalent of any other act of violence no matter what the goals, context or target are.

2) No criticism of any culture is valid unless it’s a western culture.

Hard choices:

Choosing between Hiroshima and Dresden as the historical example to cite to demonstrate that terrorist targeting civilians is not so bad.


Imagine a life where you're inclined to make value judgements using your own good morals, and study the experience and wisdom of others. In short, to be a man.


Keep trying. Someday you'll pay taxes just like me.
 
Skeptic said:

that the 3rd-largest terror mastermind in the world (after OBL and Arafat) has been killed.

What happened to the revolutionary armed forces of Colobia? And those maoist ones in nepal? And what about the Chechen? or the Ingush (sp?). The rather inpressive collection of ones in Indoniesa?
 
iain said:
How many credibility points do you lose for starting a whole thread comparing the modern situation to the Nazis and World War II, when they clearly have so little in common?

Skeptic's thread-opening post is a superb example of how to demonstrate absurdity by being absurd.

Well done, Skeptic... :)
 
Mycroft said:


Values:

1) Any military action is the equivalent of any other act of violence no matter what the goals, context or target are.

2) No criticism of any culture is valid unless it’s a western culture.

Hard choices:

Choosing between Hiroshima and Dresden as the historical example to cite to demonstrate that terrorist targeting civilians is not so bad.

1) So a helicopter gunship assault=a tank battle=infantry attack=a mustard gas attack=armed robbery=rape=child abuse?!?!?!?!

2) Sorry, but I don't need to be a piece of fruit to tell between apples and oranges...

Neither Hiroshima nor Dresden were terrorist attacks as they were defined then, nor arguably as terrorist attacks as they are defined today...
 
Skeptic said:
RASTENBURG, EAST PRUSSIA, JULY 20th, 1944. (Rueters).

The spiritual leader of Nazism, the prematurely old and frail Mr. Adolf Hitler, survived an assassination attempt today, as a bomb planted under his chair exploded prematurely. Mr. Hitler, who could not be reached for official comment, reportedly said to his aids that, in retaliation, he will kill thousands of the "traitors" who participated in the attempt.

The European Union condemned the attack, claiming it would only "increase the cycle of violence", and goes against the general law that leaders are immune from attack.

They also noted that real control of day-to-day events has been slipping out of Mr. Hitler's hands for quite a while now, concentrating more and more in figures like Mr. Himmler, the SS chief, and Mr. Speer, the armament minister, making such an attack "senseless" from the political point of view, and one that could only "infuriate the Germans" and "deteriorate an already-comlicated situations".

The secretary-general of the UN, reached by time machine, asked for a special UN session to condemn the attack on Mr. Hitler as "not constructive", warning that, had it succeeded, it could have created a "power vacuum in the German authority", and perhaps even "pushed Germany into the hands of the radicals", among which he named Mr. Goebbles and Mr. Himmler.

The honorable secretary also reiterated his opposition to Britian's "extremist" demand for "unconditional surrender". "Such language merely widens the circle of violence and radicalizes the enemy", insisted the secretary.

(Damn, I'm getting good at this... )

Seeing how absurd your strawmen look? They are looking more and more ridiculous everytime you build one.
 
Originally posted by a_unique_person
Seeing how absurd your strawmen look? They are looking more and more ridiculous everytime you build one.

Originally posted by a_unique_person
They don't count, apparently.

Originally posted by a_unique_person
One of these days he will demonstrate sense by making sense.

Don’t you ever offer anything of substance?
 

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