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Anonimity on the Internet

Theodore Kurita said:
Yes, anonymizer and any other commercial service keeps logs. No matter what they say. They have to cover their asses somehow.

If you follow all of this, you should be anonymous... PERIOD!
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Yet, hackers are caught. I would have thought that they would be clever enough to avoid leaving a trail.

Is it conceivable that MS has some additional code somewhere that places a fingerprint?

I am just curious, is all.
 
Ed said:
Yet, hackers are caught. I would have thought that they would be clever enough to avoid leaving a trail.

Is it conceivable that MS has some additional code somewhere that places a fingerprint?

I am just curious, is all.
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I can tell you that most hackers get caught by purchasing bugged botnets or logging VPN's.

If you just do it all on your own you will be fine.

Besides if you have SOCKSCHAIN running thorugh countries that are not friendly to your nation, then have one in your nation, you can make life hell for any investigators.
 
Ed said:
Yet, hackers are caught. I would have thought that they would be clever enough to avoid leaving a trail.

Is it conceivable that MS has some additional code somewhere that places a fingerprint?

I am just curious, is all.
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Any "hacker" worth his salt is not using anything written by Microsoft. Thankfully, most of the people dumb enough to commit crimes also think they are more clever than they actually are.

It's the ones who don't get caught that you have to worry about ;)
 
Ed said:
How do you pay in one? I mean it seems that if you need a credit card to pay for service, they got cha. Unless the card is phoney.
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There are still these things that are called "bills." In some countries, they are called "notes." Folding money, if you will. And there are small discs of metal called "coins."

The "bills" in the US even have the notation that they are good for all debts, public and private.
 
epepke said:
There are still these things that are called "bills." In some countries, they are called "notes." Folding money, if you will. And there are small discs of metal called "coins."

The "bills" in the US even have the notation that they are good for all debts, public and private.
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WTF!!!!!!! You learn something new every day.:D

Maurice Woodriff Predicts: The day will come shortly when you will need positive ID to use cash.
 
epepke said:
The "bills" in the US even have the notation that they are good for all debts, public and private.
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From the U.S. Treasury FAQ:

http://www.treas.gov/education/faq/currency/legal-tender.shtml

Question: I thought that United States currency was legal tender for all debts. Some businesses or governmental agencies say that they will only accept checks, money orders or credit cards as payment, and others will only accept currency notes in denominations of $20 or smaller. Isn't this illegal?

Answer: The pertinent portion of law that applies to your question is the Coinage Act of 1965, specifically Section 102. This is now found in section 392 of Title 31 of the United States Code. The law says that: "All coins and currencies of the United States, regardless of when coined or issued, shall be legal-tender for all debts, public and private, public charges, taxes, duties and dues."

This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy
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Maurice Woodriff Predicts: The day will come shortly when you will need positive ID to use cash.
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No problem according to the law.
 
Rob Lister said:
Does anonymizer keeps records of who logged in when and who went where. If so, these could be obtained by court order and lead directly, or indirectly, back to you. Possibly they destroy their records but I see liability problems there.
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Leaving aside court orders and government searches, how easy is it to hide one's trail from a private detective that does not have access to the computer itself?
 
I'd think that if you wear a disguise when you use cash to buy a notebook from a random store in the country, then use it only while wardriving at random places around the country you'd be pretty safe. Especially if you wait a year or two after the purchase so memories fade, fingerprints are obscured, DNA degrades, security camera tapes are reused, and maybe the store will close. People might be able to trace your system and match it to one sold at a store in Topeka in 2008, and that it has been used in Boston, Miami, Kansas City, and Seattle, but nothing that ties it back to you personally. Unless a private detective starts following you you might be anonymous. YMMV.
 
Indeed. The bandages are unpeeling and ...bits are falling off.
I was quite spooked when I saw ole Claus in there.
 
Ed said:
How do you pay in one? I mean it seems that if you need a credit card to pay for service, they got cha. Unless the card is phoney.

Point being, sitting at home, no matter what tricks you pull eventually it comes back to you.
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The ones in South America were happy to take cash. You pay by the hour. I don't see why you'd need a credit card.


The library has access. You can sign up under a common name like John Smith and they'd have little means of figuring out which JS you were.

I use free WiFi all the time. But I assume my IPod has some device ID tied to me. There is nothing special to using free WiFi, you just need a device with a wireless modem. Also, sometimes you can log on using your neighbor's WiFi. I know occasionally people are using mine because my computer alerts me to the fact another device is using my IP address.


On a separate note, I found out the other day some jerk run web site prides itself in listing everyone's phone number whether they want it unlisted or not. I'm very careful about giving out my number to commercial agencies like credit card agencies and always insist they don't share it. Clearly they just lie because there was my unlisted number on the jerk run web page.
 
scribble said:
Quote: Maurice Woodriff Predicts: The day will come shortly when you will need positive ID to use cash..
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Banking laws in the US changed a few years ago and you can no longer have a bank account without a valid social security number and the banks have an instant check to see the number matches your name. You can work for the government with a fake SSN, but you cannot open a bank account. :rolleyes:
 
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SkepticScott said:
I'd think that if you wear a disguise when you use cash to buy a notebook from a random store in the country, then use it only while wardriving at random places around the country you'd be pretty safe. Especially if you wait a year or two after the purchase so memories fade, fingerprints are obscured, DNA degrades, security camera tapes are reused, and maybe the store will close. People might be able to trace your system and match it to one sold at a store in Topeka in 2008, and that it has been used in Boston, Miami, Kansas City, and Seattle, but nothing that ties it back to you personally. Unless a private detective starts following you you might be anonymous. YMMV.
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You can now also buy pre-paid credit cards, no name needed.
 
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