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Anomolies at ground zero

defaultdotxbe said:
try this one, shoudl you listen to engineer judy wood, or every other engineer in the world?

if you listen to judy, why is she smarter than everyone else on the planet?
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Well, by that argument, why should I listen to gravy? Is his research better than any other research?

Why do you say every engineer in the world? Jeff King at MIT thinks the towers were demolished. Please stop lying.
 
Docker said:
Thats irrelevent. She had a civil engineering degree before she specialised in anything.
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And other people who HAVE specialised in relevant areas disagree with Judy Wood's Keebler Elves metaphor. I'm going to value their opinion over hers because they know what they are talking about and she doesn't.

-Gumboot
 
Docker said:
Well, by that argument, why should I listen to gravy? Is his research better than any other research?
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no, thast why gravy cites sources, judy wood cites sci-fi movies and marketing gimmicks

Why do you say every engineer in the world? Jeff King at MIT thinks the towers were demolished. Please stop lying.
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the only site i could find mentioning jeff king redirected me to a campaign site for some politician

perhaps you could link me to something? ive never seen him published anywhere
 
Put it this way...

My friend did a BA (Bachelor of Arts) and took a couple of film papers where they watched films and then analysed them.

I went to a film school where I specialised in film production and cinematography. As well as study the history and theory of film, as well as watch films and analyse them, we also MADE films, using various formats, and then watched and analysed THOSE. This was ALL I did, for 3 years, full time. My friend had a couple of film lectures each week, a typical lecture lasting a couple of hours.

If we were to watch a film, and someone wanted to know what format the film was shot on, who would you ask, me? Or my friend? If we were in disagreement, whose opinion would you value more highly? Mine? Or theirs? If the director of photography of that film came along and gave a THIRD opinion how would this affect your determination of whom to trust?

I'm serious, please answer this hypothetical scenario.

-Gumboot
 
Docker said:
Should I listen to Mechanical Engineer Dr Judy Wood, who has a civil engineering degree, or a bunch of googlers with no expertise?

Hmmm...difficult choice
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Are you talking about dental engineer Judy Wood, who believes that "Star Wars Weapons" destroyed the towers, or about a Judy Wood who isn't batcrap crazy?

It's quite disturbing that you:

–Claim we have presented no evidence since you started posting, 200+ posts, and less than a day, ago.

–Choose to make decisions about the events of 9/11 based on a person's academic title, rather than on the facts they present. That's an extremely foolish position to take. I hope you will reconsider it. We'll be glad to discuss any of Judy Wood's contentions, if you're interested.

Would you like to start with her assertion that the WTC towers were constructed like, and should have fallen like, trees of the wooden, petrified, and snack varieties?

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Slide from Judy Wood's PowerPoint presentation on 9/11
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Docker said:
Shows how good your research is. Here' a video featuring him:

http://www.jonhs.net/911/jeff_king.htm
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Sorry, we don't do video link dumping here. Especially when "Tesla weapon" promoters like Jeff King are concerned.

This is a discussion forum. Choose a claim in the video, tell us why you think it's correct, significant, supported by evidence, etc., and we can have a discussion.

Before you do that, I suggest, for the fourth time, that you finish with the other threads you've started. Jumping around like you're doing isn't conducive to learning. My two cents.
 
Docker said:
He is far more qualified than you, oh and he is now a doctor. Hardly the type to be a nutjob
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Once again, Docker, it isn't about "types." It's about facts. I've heard Jeff King state that he thinks the towers were brought down by "High-Energy Tesla Weapons."

Since he has no evidence to support that position, that makes him a nutjob.

If you disagree, present your evidence.

Steven Jones, Judy Wood, Jim Fetzer all have advanced degrees, Docker, and they all are idiots when it comes to the events of 9/11. Don't be impressed by degrees. They are, if not meaningless, taken with a high degree of skepticism here in the conspiracy theories forum.
 
Gravy said:
Sorry, we don't do video link dumping here. Especially when "Tesla weapon" promoters like Jeff King are concerned.

This is a discussion forum. Choose a claim in the video, tell us why you think it's correct, significant, supported by evidence, etc., and we can have a discussion.

Before you do that, I suggest, for the fourth time, that you finish with the other threads you've started. Jumping around like you're doing isn't conducive to learning. My two cents.
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The video was just to let your uninformed comrade know who this man was.

I may use these forums as I please, you are not an administrator.
 
Gravy said:
Once again, Docker, it isn't about "types." It's about facts. I've heard Jeff King state that he thinks the towers were brought down by "High-Energy Tesla Weapons."

Since he has no evidence to support that position, that makes him a nutjob.

If you disagree, present your evidence.

Steven Jones, Judy Wood, Jim Fetzer all have advanced degrees, Docker, and they all are idiots when it comes to the events of 9/11. Don't be impressed by degrees. They are, if not meaningless, taken with a high degree of skepticism here in the conspiracy theories forum.
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So, essentially, anyone who disagrees with you people is a nutjob, despite being Professors of various things. Yes that makes sense gravy.

Give me one reason why I should listen to the views of a tour guide about academics.
 
Docker said:
So, essentially, anyone who disagrees with you people is a nutjob, despite being Professors of various things. Yes that makes sense gravy.

Give me one reason why I should listen to the views of a tour guide about academics.
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Will you read my last posts and make a real stab at understanding them? I'm saying the opposite of what you just stated.

Get it, Docker? It's not about blindly believing anyone! It's about facts and evidence!

How many times do you have to be told that?
 
Gravy said:
Don't be impressed by degrees. They are, if not meaningless, taken with a high degree of skepticism here in the conspiracy theories forum.
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I don't think they are meaningless in themselves, but simplying stating X is right because they have a degree in Y is nothing but an appeal to authority and that is meaningless.

James Randi said:
Getting an education does't make you smart - it makes you educated.
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Docker said:
So, essentially, anyone who disagrees with you people is a nutjob, despite being Professors of various things. Yes that makes sense gravy.

Give me one reason why I should listen to the views of a tour guide about academics.
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someone who presents an alternative theory with no evidence to back it up is a nut

for example, if jeff king says tesla weapons were used, is able to show such weapons exist (outside of command and conquer: red alert) show a large power spike to the WTC right before the collapse, increased electro-magnetic interference, electrical burns on debris, and so forth he might have something

however, the fact that jeff king is an eletrical engineer doesnt mean electricity destroyed the WTC (if thats all the evidence needed, i submit, based on my expertise, that microsoft windows operating systems destroyed the towers)
 
Gravy said:
Will you read my last posts and make a real stab at understanding them? I'm saying the opposite of what you just stated.

Get it, Docker? It's not about blindly believing anyone! It's about facts and evidence!

How many times do you have to be told that?
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When did I say I blindly believed anyone?
 
Docker said:
Give me one reason why I should listen to the views of a tour guide about academics.
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Should you take me seriously? Yes. I have an established track record of providing verifiable evidence about these issues. How can you tell? Check my posts in your threads. The academics you speak of have an established track record of getting pretty much everything wrong. Does that mean you should blindly believe us? Of course not. Believe the evidence.
 
i submit, based on my expertise, that microsoft windows operating systems destroyed the towers)
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Perhaps someone found a security flaw, introduced a thermite virus which spread throughout the buildings and caused a major crash.

I think you're onto something, wanna make a movie?
 
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