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Ann Counter: comedienne

I can't see what all the bru-ha-ha is about?

Of course Anne Coulter is a tongue-in-cheek comedienne. She's written such zany and side-splitting books as; Slander: Liberal Lies about the American Right, The Case Against Bill Clinton and Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism.

She's appeared on well-known comedy programs like; Hannity and Colmes, The O'Reilly Factor, American Morning, Crossfire and The Today Show.

She appeared in the bucket of laughs movie, FarenHYPE 9/11.

She's a true patriot and LOVES our troops AND our veterans:

"In 1996, the fledgling television network MSNBC hired Coulter as a legal correspondent and political pundit, launching her media career. Though she was allowed to make many partisan and controversial comments as a panelist, she was fired in 1997 after an exchange with Bobby Muller, president of the Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation, in which she said, "No wonder you guys lost" (MSNBC's NewsChat, October 11, 1997)."
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She's loved by people who share her philosophies for her humor and glib responses:

" Her style is not universally admired among those who share her political philosophy. Arnold Beichman reviewed Treason in the conservative Washington Times, and wrote that he'd "tried to read Miss Coulter's book and failed. Life is too short to read pages and pages of rant." [7] Many find her presentations, both published and spoken, to be both highly offensive and inflammatory. Critics have labeled her comments and opinions as blatantly racist."
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She's a humorous advocate for equal rights for all Americans:

"At a February 23, 2006 appearance at Indiana University, Bloomington, in a speech entitled "Liberals Are Wrong About Everything", she told the extremely divided audience, "Liberals hate both God and America," and referred to a man with an effeminate voice who was asking questions as a "gay boy."
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She's not afraid to embrace the values of America's core:

"Coulter has frequently criticized the government's handling of radical separatists. She described members of the Branch Davidians at the Waco compound as "harmless American citizens" [19] after the bulk of the group was immolated in the fire started during the FBI raid (the cause of the fire is in dispute). Likewise, she berates what she calls the "unprovoked government assault" and "murder" at Ruby Ridge"
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No one is safe from her wacky sense of humor, and many people applaud her political incorrectness:

"When asked by the reporter about what Muslims would then do for travel, she replied: "They could use flying carpets." [28] On February 10, 2006, Coulter spoke at the Conservative Political Action Conference, where she referred to Arabs as "ragheads". "I think our motto should be post-9-11, raghead talks tough, raghead faces consequences." The audience then applauded her."
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She's especially concerned about equal rights for women:

"On a few occasions Coulter has suggested that the constitutional amendment giving women the right to vote should be repealed. In a 14 February 2000 National Review Online article she wrote, "If this ticket doesn't close the gender gap, it's time to repeal the 19th Amendment." On 26 February 2001, she said, "[women should] all have to give up their vote" (Politically Incorrect). She also argues that banning women from voting would ensure Republican presidents would be elected - as historical voting patterns had shown men had voted in majorities for Republican candidates."

And she's used her straightforward style of comedy to uplift women:

"Coulter has stated that women are "not as bright" as men (Hannity and Colmes - 09/23/04), "have no capacity to understand how money is earned" (Politically Incorrect - 02/26/01), and "shouldn't be in the military" (Hannity and Colmes - 05/05/04)."
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She'll forever be remembered as the funniest woman on earth with quotes like:

"Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now."—(from Slander, pp. 5-6; published June 2002)

"The ethic of conservation is the explicit abnegation of man's dominion over the Earth. The lower species are here for our use. God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet—it's yours. That's our job: drilling, mining and stripping. Sweaters are the anti-Biblical view. Big gas-guzzling cars with phones and CD players and wet bars—that's the Biblical view."

"You don't want the Republicans in power, does that mean you want a dictatorship, gay boy?" - February 24, 2006 [44]
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Again, what's all the bru-ha-ha about? Anne Coulter is obviously a great comedienne - I nearly pissed myself laughing!

She's currently appearing at the following comedy clubs: . . . ummmm, ahhhhh, hmmmmmm, well, I guess she's NOT appearing at any comedy clubs BECAUSE SHE'S NOT FRIGGIN FUNNY!

(edited to add - because I know you'll ask) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter
 
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It seems to me that Coulter is accomplishing her aim, and doing it very well, which is to piss off the Left as much as possible. But it doesn't take much talent to do that.

She isn't there for the Right, she's there for the Left.
 
It seems to me that Coulter is accomplishing her aim, and doing it very well, which is to piss off the Left as much as possible. But it doesn't take much talent to do that.

She isn't there for the Right, she's there for the Left.

It also doesn't take much talent to piss off the neo-cons. Slap together a few clips of the Taliban in Texas, a seven minute video of our Commander in Chief staring off into space like a deer in the headlights while our country was under attack, try to interview a few congressmen about why their children AREN'T in the military at the onset of this stupid war, and a few zany shots of Dubya on vacation (when he SHOULD have been reading Richard Clarke's memos) . . . and you've got a hilarious documentary on the ineptitude of the current administration.

But you guys alway DID have to lie to get a reaction from the people on the Left - whereas comedy FROM the Left only has to concentrate on what you guys ACTUALLY do!

(edited to add) comediennes who aren't funny, nitwits for leaders, Conservative criminals in high government positions, an illegal war without apparent end - the disappearing middle class shouldering the deficit - how much more of this humor can we take?
 
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It also doesn't take much talent to piss off the neo-cons. Slap together a few clips of the Taliban in Texas, a seven minute video of our Commander in Chief staring off into space like a deer in the headlights while our country was under attack, try to interview a few congressmen about why their children AREN'T in the military at the onset of this stupid war, and a few zany shot of Dubya on vacation (when he SHOULD have been reading Richard Clarke's memos) . . . and you've got a hilarious documentary on the ineptitude of the current administration.

But you guys alway DID have to lie to get a reaction from the people on the Left - whereas comedy FROM the Left only has to concentrate on what you guys ACTUALLY do!

Well said. As I mentioned before, if the Left is so totally evil, why does the Right have to make stuff up all the time? You'd think the truth would be enough.
 
It seems to me that Coulter is accomplishing her aim, and doing it very well, which is to piss off the Left as much as possible. But it doesn't take much talent to do that.

She isn't there for the Right, she's there for the Left.

Hi Luke. Just interested, where did you get the Franken "quote" from?

I agree that I think Coulter knows how to make her money and does so by being shocking. Problem is, there is a sizable audience that takes her words as gospel. I know, I have debated some of them. Her "footnotes" lend legitimacy to her words when such is not warranted by actually examining her footnotes. She knows that 99% of her readers will never bother to check her references. And so more and more people are ill-informed.

Lurker
 
Luke,

I'd also like your opinion. In light of what I posted that gave context to Franken's McCain quote, do you think he was seriously calling McCain a coward or do you think he was joking? Cause when you first posted Franken's quote, it sure seemed like you thought Franken was denigrating McCain's service. I am curious to know if your stance has changed.

Lurker
 
Luke,

I'd also like your opinion. In light of what I posted that gave context to Franken's McCain quote, do you think he was seriously calling McCain a coward or do you think he was joking? Cause when you first posted Franken's quote, it sure seemed like you thought Franken was denigrating McCain's service. I am curious to know if your stance has changed.

Yeah, Luke make us laugh just like Anne Coulter. ;)
 
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Luke,

I'd also like your opinion. In light of what I posted that gave context to Franken's McCain quote, do you think he was seriously calling McCain a coward or do you think he was joking? Cause when you first posted Franken's quote, it sure seemed like you thought Franken was denigrating McCain's service. I am curious to know if your stance has changed.

Lurker

Do you think Coulter really means everything she says?

Coulter, Franken, and Moore are the trolls of the real world political forum and just like here, the people who hate them the most are the most responsible for feeding them, and therefore, their thriving.
 
Do you think Coulter really means everything she says?

Has she given anyone any reason to beleive she does not. Lacking the ability to read minds one can only go by what she says. And since she is usually taking the stance of 'serious politcal analyst' rather than 'humorous political commentator' the default assumption is that she is serious.
 
Luke:

Agreed, Coulter may be joking. But what I am interested in is your post here (Post #14 on this thread)

Franken said it. Considered a hero to some Americans.

Speaking of heroes, he said in his book, about John McCain, "But this whole 'war hero' thing-I don't get it. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, he sat out the war. I mean, anyone can get captured!"

Link

I provided the context of that quote showing it to be a joke. Yet you posted it as if it were not a joke and it was a serious statement by Franken. Are you willing to look at the contextual evidence I provided and back off your original statement or are you some sort of woo-woo who ignores evidence?

It is quite simple, Luke. In light of the evidence I provided, do you still think Franken does not consider McCain a war hero?

Lurker

Lurker
 
Luke:

Agreed, Coulter may be joking. But what I am interested in is your post here (Post #14 on this thread)



I provided the context of that quote showing it to be a joke. Yet you posted it as if it were not a joke and it was a serious statement by Franken. Are you willing to look at the contextual evidence I provided and back off your original statement or are you some sort of woo-woo who ignores evidence?

It is quite simple, Luke. In light of the evidence I provided, do you still think Franken does not consider McCain a war hero?

Lurker

Lurker

I think it is obvious, even out of context, that Franken is joking. It should be just as obvious when Coulter is joking or being sarcastic or is being dead serious. If some people can't tell, that is their problem. I can't help them with their sense of humor.

The point is the tastelessness.

I also can't help a person if one tasteless joke offends them while another does not. One man's wine is another man's poison.

As far as I'm concerned, they are both jerks who don't deserve the attention we are paying them.

Coulter strikes me as someone who has succumbed to the kind of tempation I often feel when debating Sundog. That is, to say something incredibly outrageous just to watch him cycle up. I resist that temptation as much as I am able, but man, sometimes...

Coulter does not resist that temptation.
 
I just thought of an example of when I succumbed to the tempation. The other day in response to a Darat post about abortion, I said something along the lines of solving the unwanted chilren problem by popping them in the microwave or just tossing them out the window.

Everyone who knows me, knows I was being sarcastic. But statements like that from me mean I will never be able to run for public office. :D

I also realized at that point that I had gone over the top and needed to walk away for a while.
 
(channeling Coulter) said:
"In 1996, the fledgling television network MSNBC hired Coulter as a legal correspondent and political pundit, launching her media career. Though she was allowed to make many partisan and controversial comments as a panelist, she was fired in 1997 after an exchange with Bobby Muller, president of the Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation, in which she said, "No wonder you guys lost" (MSNBC's NewsChat, October 11, 1997)."
_________

She's loved by people who share her philosophies for her humor and glib responses:

" Her style is not universally admired among those who share her political philosophy. Arnold Beichman reviewed Treason in the conservative Washington Times, and wrote that he'd "tried to read Miss Coulter's book and failed. Life is too short to read pages and pages of rant." [7] Many find her presentations, both published and spoken, to be both highly offensive and inflammatory. Critics have labeled her comments and opinions as blatantly racist."
________

She's a humorous advocate for equal rights for all Americans:

"At a February 23, 2006 appearance at Indiana University, Bloomington, in a speech entitled "Liberals Are Wrong About Everything", she told the extremely divided audience, "Liberals hate both God and America," and referred to a man with an effeminate voice who was asking questions as a "gay boy."
_________

She's not afraid to embrace the values of America's core:

"Coulter has frequently criticized the government's handling of radical separatists. She described members of the Branch Davidians at the Waco compound as "harmless American citizens" [19] after the bulk of the group was immolated in the fire started during the FBI raid (the cause of the fire is in dispute). Likewise, she berates what she calls the "unprovoked government assault" and "murder" at Ruby Ridge"
__________

No one is safe from her wacky sense of humor, and many people applaud her political incorrectness:

"When asked by the reporter about what Muslims would then do for travel, she replied: "They could use flying carpets." [28] On February 10, 2006, Coulter spoke at the Conservative Political Action Conference, where she referred to Arabs as "ragheads". "I think our motto should be post-9-11, raghead talks tough, raghead faces consequences." The audience then applauded her."
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She's especially concerned about equal rights for women:

"On a few occasions Coulter has suggested that the constitutional amendment giving women the right to vote should be repealed. In a 14 February 2000 National Review Online article she wrote, "If this ticket doesn't close the gender gap, it's time to repeal the 19th Amendment." On 26 February 2001, she said, "[women should] all have to give up their vote" (Politically Incorrect). She also argues that banning women from voting would ensure Republican presidents would be elected - as historical voting patterns had shown men had voted in majorities for Republican candidates."

And she's used her straightforward style of comedy to uplift women:

"Coulter has stated that women are "not as bright" as men (Hannity and Colmes - 09/23/04), "have no capacity to understand how money is earned" (Politically Incorrect - 02/26/01), and "shouldn't be in the military" (Hannity and Colmes - 05/05/04)."
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She'll forever be remembered as the funniest woman on earth with quotes like:

"Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now."—(from Slander, pp. 5-6; published June 2002)

"The ethic of conservation is the explicit abnegation of man's dominion over the Earth. The lower species are here for our use. God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet—it's yours. That's our job: drilling, mining and stripping. Sweaters are the anti-Biblical view. Big gas-guzzling cars with phones and CD players and wet bars—that's the Biblical view."

"You don't want the Republicans in power, does that mean you want a dictatorship, gay boy?" - February 24, 2006 [44]
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Great stuff! All that has me laughing in the aisles .... :D :D
 
All right, Luke. Fair enough. Personally, I think Franken's comments are more easily recognizable as humor than Coulter's but I can see how tastes vary.

I am more than willing to grant that Coulter uses hyperbole to make her point, much along the lines of your microwave comment. Is it wrong? No, I guess not if the hyperbole is so over the line that is is immediately recognized as such (like your microwave comment).

The problem with Coulter is she straddles that fence of plausibility. Some more extreme right-wingers may take what she says as true and not hyperbole. More moderate conservatives pooh-pooh left wing reaction adn say it is just hyperbole to make a point. Thus, she satisfies both the extremist and the moderate conservative. Pretty cagey of her especially since she really never says she was joking and at times has even says she is serious (about something that is clearly must be hyperbole to be seriously considered).

By contrast, I doubt a single left-winger thinks Franken was disssing McCain's courage as a POW. I have only seen right-wingers (such as yourself) attempt to portray it as such and that sort of misquoting really hacks me off.

Anyway, thanks for your response, I didn't mean to badger you (yes I did!). Are we cool?

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... I doubt a single left-winger thinks Franken was disssing McCain's courage as a POW. I have only seen right-wingers (such as yourself) attempt to portray it as such and that sort of misquoting really hacks me off.
Yeah, Franken represents the standard issue chickensh!t asshat who makes a nasty comment and follows it with the 'haha, just kidding, no offense intended' crap.

Coulter ... straddles that fence of plausibility. Some more extreme right-wingers may take what she says as true and not hyperbole. More moderate conservatives pooh-pooh left wing reaction adn say it is just hyperbole to make a point. Thus, she satisfies both the extremist and the moderate conservative. Pretty cagey of her especially since she really never says she was joking and at times has even says she is serious (about something that is clearly must be hyperbole to be seriously considered).
Correct, and Coulter doesn't bother with the meaningless false apologies. Deal with it.
 
Luke T writes:
Do you think Coulter really means everything she says?

This is a red-herring. Does anyone mean everything s/he says? What's the point? Look at the above quotes/comments from the Wikipedia entry. Do you think she meant any/most of those things?

When dealing with satire, a reader should be able to deduce the intentions of the author after becoming familiar with his/her work. Occasonally in the past I would write a few provocative posts and people would ask, "Are you really a right-wing nut?" and then someone would say, "No, that's Cain's idea of 'joking' around." If we DID call up Al Franken and ask if he "REALLY" hates homosexuals, there's a good chance he'll say, "Yeah. (pause) YEAH! I do! What's it to ya?" He's JOKING.

Who is Ann Coulter satirizing? Ultra right-wing jackasses? So she's mocking her fanbase? I don't buy it. She's just a mean and nasty person, and if you want to say she's play-acting -- that is, being mean and nasty in order to fulfill a market niche, then I would contend she's even worse: she's a nihilist. But of course, I think Coulter revels in her role. As mentioned earlier, a lot of conservatives don't "get her", as when she was fired from NRO for making several spectacularly fatuous comments.

Now we see comparisons to Michael Moore. Well, during the 2004 national conventions, USA TODAY hired Moore to cover the Republicans, and Coulter to cover the Democrats. She was supposed to write a series, but only did one column because it was so goddamn bloody stupid (and that's by USA TODAY standards)! She had to be replaced with the rarely funny Jonah Goldberg.

Someone earlier brought up an important point on intellectual honesty. Simply compare Franken's books against Coulter's on the facts.
 

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