Animal rights terrorists

Off the top of my head- RSPCA, RSPB, the Blue Cross & local animal rescue centers.
Not the RSPCA, please. Princesspoppy, you live in the same county as me by the way. I work in the shadow of the RSPCA HQ.

They're nothing like PETA and so on, of course not. But they have a very strange structure. Much of their money comes from legacies (even from Scotland, where they publicise themselves but do no work, as their role there is covered by the SSPCA who are entirely separate). This money is considered to be for central funds. There is lots of it. Their HQ building is huge and lavish and luxurious, makes my place in its shadow look like a sparsely-appointed garage.

HQ funds the inspectors whose job is to get prosecutions. Sometimes they get on to real cruelty and do a great job and some bastard goes to jail. But lots of time they simply get on to people with no money and fewer brains who don't really realise their animal ought to be seen by a vet. In fact, sometimes the victims are quite capable people - I know one solicitor who hadn't realised that his undersized spaniel gundog was more than just small for her age, but they broke into his kennel when he was out and seized the dog and charged him with starving her. (She in fact had a chronic heart complaint, which even his vet hadn't noticed when he'd given her her booster vaccine a month earlier!) Often old people with an ailing pet seek help for the pet when things have gone a bit far, and instead of getting the help the animal is seized and often killed, and the owner is prosecuted. Because it's great publicity for the RSPCA to trumpet how many successful prosecutions they've mounted. They spend thousands on prosecuting an owner, when spending a couple of hundred on offering the help the owner needed would have saved all that. But no, it's the owner's responsibility to pay for veterinary care, we can only afford a small contribution to help at the beginning then if longer treatment is needed then it's up to the owner. And then the RSPCA is watching, and if the owner stops the treatment, they pounce.

Sorry, I'm not against them in principle, I do prosecutions for them if I agree they have a good case. It's just that they are too good at pursuing not-good cases, and even what seem to be malicious cases, as well.

All this time, while the HQ is shelling out tens of thousands in legal costs, the individual branches who are financially "self-sufficient" (that is they raise all their own funds and get no share of the legacies) are strapped for cash to do real rescue and rehabilitation work.

I just wouldn't give them any money. Unless it's to a local branch, and you can see what they're doing with it.

The PDSA can do with support too by the way. And the CPL.

Rolfe.
 
The post that was lost was about the Glaxo affair. ALF activists have been writing to all the shareholders in Glaxo, telling them that if they don't sell their shares within two weeks their names and addresses will be published on the Internet. With the implication that this is an invitation for them to be visited with half bricks and cans of paint. I understand an injunction has been granted and Glaxo shares actually rose a point or so!

However, there was more than actually appeared in the press. As well as that, ALF forged a letter to the head of Huntingdon Life Sciences (the company that runs the testing of drugs service), purporting to come from the Glaxo company secretary, saying that he'd had a serious rethink and he was now bitterly opposed to the idea of testing drugs on animals.

At the same time, they also forged a letter purporting to be from the police, saying that the same Glaxo company secretary was a known dangerous sex offender and paederast, whom they couldn't touch because of a quirk in the law, but they felt they had to put the public on their guard. This was delivered to all the homes in the street where this guy lives.

Fortunately a couple of this guy's neighbours knew who he was and knew about ALF's tactics, and they wrote a letter explaining that the man was in fact a senior executive with a major drug manufacturer, and the "police" letter was standard ALF tactics aimed at smearing him and getting people to attack him. They hand-delivered this to the same houses, and the whole thing was defused.

Lovely people, ALF.

Rolfe.
 
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At the same time, they also forged a letter purporting to be from the police, saying that the same Glaxo company secretary was a known dangerous sex offender and paederast, whom they couldn't touch because of a quirk in the law, but they felt they had to put the public on their guard. This was delivered to all the homes in the street where this guy lives.

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Wow, I hadn't heard that one before. That surely is as low as you can go without resorting to grave-robbing :eye-poppi
 
Wow, I hadn't heard that one before. That surely is as low as you can go without resorting to grave-robbing :eye-poppi

No.

You could go as low as car bombs, firebombs, baseball bat attacks etc.

And how about screaming through a megaphone into the ear of a secretary who works for a company who have office space in the same office building as a company who do work with Huntingdon Life Sciences and causing permanent hearing damage?

These people are scum and it is nice to see the legal system finally treating them like terrorists.
 
Wow, I hadn't heard that one before. That surely is as low as you can go without resorting to grave-robbing :eye-poppi
It wasn't pubished, but I was told by a colleague, who happens to be one of the people who took the initiative to send round the letters refuting the accusations. Basically, the Glaxo secretary is a close neighbour of my colleague, my colleague was one of the people who received the letter, and he organised the riposte. He told me all about it on Tuesday night, while we were discussing the Hammond/Hall affair.

Rolfe.
 
No.

You could go as low as car bombs, firebombs, baseball bat attacks etc.

And how about screaming through a megaphone into the ear of a secretary who works for a company who have office space in the same office building as a company who do work with Huntingdon Life Sciences and causing permanent hearing damage?

These people are scum and it is nice to see the legal system finally treating them like terrorists.
Have they actually done these things? Sounds as if you are referring to specific events.

To be fair, I know the police have been treating them on the same level as the IRA for at least ten years, and more than that.

Rolfe.
 
Have they actually done these things? Sounds as if you are referring to specific events.

To be fair, I know the police have been treating them on the same level as the IRA for at least ten years, and more than that.

Rolfe.

Car bomb

http://www.guardian.co.uk/animalrights/story/0,,1514393,00.html

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4153/is_20051114/ai_n15839133

Fire bomb

http://www.vare.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=77&Itemid=2

Baseball bat

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/02/24/nhls24.xml

Megaphones - I'm afraid I have no links for that one. Have to ask you to take my word for it.
 
It was the megaphone one I hadn't heard about, but I'll take your word for it. Just as I've no proof of the letters to houses story! Thanks for the links.

Rolfe.
 
Thanks, I actually had heard dodgy things about the RSPCA too, so thanks for confirming my suspicions.
Thanks to whoever suggested the Dr Hadwen trust. That really seems like a worthy cause.
I am passionately dedicated to finding alternatives to animals for use in medical research and if these so called human beings felt the same they wouldnt be causing terror and far more harm to the animals and their welfare than good, it makes my blood boil.
 
I was working with the National Guard during the hurricane Katrina aftermath in New Orleans and PETA was there trying to rescue animals. There were a lot of hungry animals including some that were locked in houses and apartments. PETA actually did a good job I thought and were very professional. We didn't have too much time to deal with animals, as our main concern was for the people and security, but I think that PETA did as good a job as any of the state humane societies or the others like the SPCA or the Humane Society of the US.
 
The bulk of the animal rescue there was done by the veterinary school of the University at Baton Rouge. I wonder how they got on with PETA!

Rolfe.
 
I am passionately dedicated to finding alternatives to animals for use in medical research and if these so called human beings felt the same they wouldnt be causing terror and far more harm to the animals and their welfare than good, it makes my blood boil.

I suspect you will find that most scientists in medical reseach feel the same way. Animals are slow expensive and require insane amounts of paperwork. By comparison you can screen thousands of chemicals without useing live animals just not with the accurecy required for the final prehuman level of medical reseach.
 

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