And the boats keep coming

Bugger, I'm thinking of Kenneth Davidson, sorry. But Henderson is interesting. He has definitely moved to the right, but has some leftish views.
 
Sideroxylon said:
There is no accounting for tastes. It is dunny paper, isn't it. You are not going to defend that rag are you?
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Not really. I agree it is lightweight: I am just making a comparison for you as to what the two main papers in Victoria have done over the same period. The Age's readership has declined appallingly in the same time. If we want to account for some of the decline via the increase in online services etc then fair enough, but we need an apple and apple comparison.

The Age's fall from grace in the eyes of its readers and share price is not predominantly borne of alternate services but because it provides an increasingly poor product.
 
lionking said:
Bugger, I'm thinking of Kenneth Davidson, sorry. But Henderson is interesting. He has definitely moved to the right, but has some leftish views.
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That's what I thought. But Henderson is definitely not, nor has he ever been, anything that could even remotely be considered 'left'. He is a died in the wool cultural warrior for the right.
 
A.A. Alfie said:
The Age's fall from grace in the eyes of its readers and share price is not predominantly borne of alternate services but because it provides an increasingly poor product.
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You're mistaking correlation with causation. Not the first time you made a dogs breakfast of comprehending statistics.
 
I haven't bought a copy of the Age for over six months - I read it on my iPad in the comfort of my bed every morning. It's far better than any other newspaper application I've seen. Physical distribution figures mean very, very little.
 
One of the more embarrasing episodes in Australia's history.

The Federal Government has bankrolled a challenge to Australian laws that, if successful, would prevent the High Court ruling on the fate of asylum seekers detained in the Pacific.
Nauru's challenge, heard by the High Court yesterday, was not defended by the Government - a situation described by Justice Michael Kirby as "remarkable, bordering on astonishing".
"I've never heard of such a thing," he said. "It is embarrassing to a court, I think, to have suggestions of this kind made to it by counsel for a foreign country and to have no assistance from the Government of the Commonwealth of Australia.
"I find it embarrassing because this is a matter that touches the foreign relations of this country."
Nauru is challenging a Commonwealth law that makes Australia's High Court the final arbiter for appeals from Nauru's legal system.
The action aims to prevent the High Court hearing an appeal lodged by Melbourne lawyers against a decision by Nauru's Supreme Court that upheld the legality of detaining asylum seekers on the island.
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The Federal Government under Howard funds legal action by a foreign power against it's own Rule of Law.
 
bit_pattern said:
You're mistaking correlation with causation.
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Possibly. But I have provided far more than what you have. :rolleyes:
Do you have anything to support your very very spurious claims?

lionking said:
Physical distribution figures mean very, very little.
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Hilarious.
Tell the shareholders that.
Tell those that derive their wages from the paper that will soon be losing their jobs.
Tell the Editor in chief and the finance department that.

And when the paper is out of business you can tell yourself "it was such a shame that circulation mattered so little"

But more importantly than that, can someone tell us why the Age is falling and failing faster than anything else.

After that could we please get back on topic? This has been a lovely little sidetrack but it has virtually nothing to do with the asylum seeker issues. If someone does want to start a thread on the media here that would be great - we can bring up how The Age is under investigation for stealing Labor party information. If a Murdoch paper did that there would be outrage. The double standards you guys have a amazing.
 
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a_unique_person said:
One of the more embarrasing episodes in Australia's history.



The Federal Government under Howard funds legal action by a foreign power against it's own Rule of Law.
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Disgusting. I'm glad to be a member of the only party in this country that has a policy for addressing the real humanitarian issues surrounding boat arrivals that goes beyond the short term, cynical opportunism that passes for mainstream political debate in this country these days.

I used to be a rusted on Labor voter. Now I'm a Greens member. It's no wonder that the mainstream parties have no grassroots base any more. They stand for nothing beyond the advancement of their own power.
 
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bit_pattern said:
Disgusting. I'm glad to be a member of the only party in this country that has a policy for addressing the real humanitarian issues surrounding boat arrivals that goes beyond the short term, cynical opportunism that passes for mainstream political debate in this country these days.
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Indeed, Dead bodies in the sea are very humane aren't they?

a_unique_person said:
The Howard Government banned reporters from visiting asylum seekers in Nauru.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...d-off-scott-reef/story-fn59niix-1226105340780
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So do you support Gillard's move now, or Howard's then?
 
A.A. Alfie said:
Indeed, Dead bodies in the sea are very humane aren't they?
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That conclusion is based on false assumptions, engendered by a hostile media, that have nothing whatsoever to do with actual Greens policy. But I wouldn't expect anything less vacuous from you.
 
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So do you support Gillard's move now, or Howard's then?
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AUP is professing neither, another classic Alfie straw man troll technique, he/she is simply highlighting the gross hypocrisy of the News Ltd take, and by extensions your take, on the issue.
 
And two more meaningless and fact free posts.

Do you have anything to back up your claims that broadsheet readers are abandoning their bible for other forms of news?
 
bit_pattern said:
That conclusion is based on false assumptions, engendered by a hostile media, that have nothing whatsoever to do with actual Greens policy. But I wouldn't expect anything less vacuous from you.
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Are you seriously going to argue that the Greens policies which encourage people to get on boats to ultimately perish is somehow humane? Seriously? Please elaborate.
 
No, you made the claim that the outlined policy above would lead to deaths in boats, the onus is on YOU to back up YOUR claims, Alfie. After all these years you think you would have figured out how this is supposed to work.
 
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