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Ancient Pyramids and other structures, astronomical alignment & similarity.

King of the Americas said:
I started a tread some time ago about this guy who developed a round road that he employed to move a square stone, with great ease.
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Mind dropping a link to it? I looked at your list of threads all the way back to the beginning and couldn't find anything specifically about this, but I do remember debating the methods of moving and carving big stones with you, and that you appeared at the time to support a nonhuman hypothesis for such, and to take the position that no human could do such things. Wally Wallington is rather human and his techniques, while aimed at stonehengy bits, were certainly accessible to the incas as well. If I recall, you asked Argent and I to let the thread die, after we started posting links to stuff like this. Extra odd if you'd already been aware of such...

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Checkmite said:
Masonic lore deals with the building of Solomon's Temple. Whether there really were Freemasons around back then is open to debate. But not really, since as far as we can tell Freemasonry dates to the middle ages.
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That'll teach me to be silly.

Yeah, I know the Freemason's didn't build the temple, but I also know that they use a representation of it that is extremely unlikey to have existed at the time that the bible says it did.

I have no idea why the Masons didn't adopt something real, and made out of stone, like for instance, a Pyramid.
 
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Marduk said:
All I know is that something was possibly there when the Babylonians devastated the city and that whatever it possibly was, and whatever possible booty that was possibly inside it, that was reportably there, had vanished by the time they left
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mwahahahahaha
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Can I take that to mean that whatever was there, it wasn't impressive enough for Babylon to make any particular mention of it?

I think that's what I already suspected.
 
Marduk said:
http://www.theforgottentechnology.com
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Thanks. I was challenging KOA though, in hopes he'd post the thread he mentions starting, since I can't find any proof it exists. I wanted to see if he'd actually started a thread on this in the way-back-when like he claimed, since he recently went all denier and aliens-did-it when I was debating ancient stonework with him in his 'skeptics vs. knowers' thread. If he really had started a thread talking about clever human methods of moving big stones, then later gone off about how humans can't move big stones and thus aliens-did-it... Well, we have a word for that...

In other news, thanks for the link. This is some cool stuff. I'd seen a lot of video, but never looked to see if he has a website.

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I'd think that any presumed similarity in dimensions of pyramids across cultures is pretty coincidental, given the great variance in mathematical concepts and units of measure. I'm hypothesizing that what we see in monument sizes can be summed up as 'nice even numbered measurements, in the numbering system and measure of the culture', within a slight variance justified by weathering, sloppy measuring in construction, sloppy measuring by archeologists, and reconstruction or modification over the years. I'm going to make a bet with myself that the measures will fall within a unit of a nice whole number, as expressed in that cultures numbering.

A bit of google-fu turned up a claim that the Maya used a measure of approximately 91 centimeters as the basis for thier
system of measure. The article claims that this, along with an approximate half-measure shows up as a frequent multiple in their archetecture. This is complicated as well by sloppy measurements and unit changes over the years. Certainly, up until very recently, archeological measurements weren't done to great precision, a fact that the linked source bemoans. Some more google-fu shows that the base of the great pyramid at chichen itza is 55.3 meters or so, or 60 and 3/4 base measurements. I'm not surprised to find that it was 60 measures by 60 measures or so, since the Maya had a base 20 numbering system. This would be written using their characters for 3 and 0, plus however they denoted fractions. Again, this measurement could vary a bit. 30 is a nice whole number.

The egyptians used base ten numbering, and apparently used the royal cubit as a construction measure. Google gives the size of the base of the great pyramid as 230.5 meters, and the royal cubit as 52.5 centimeters. This gives a length in cubits of 439.0 in familiar sounding decimal notation. Bearing in mind that the pyramid has suffered some stone stripping over the years, it would have been a bit larger. I'm going to go out on a bit of a limb and say 440 cubits.

I'm going to tenatively call this hypothesis confirmed.

I further note, just as an idle observation, that I'm in a room that's 12 by 20, in feet. I can tell by the tiles. Standardization of building materials tends to do this to a culture...

Oh, just as a 'by the way' 230.5 meters square is only 'similar' to 55.3 meters square if you squint REALLY REALLY hard...

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Oops. The maya great pyramid referenced earlier was at Teotihuacan. Let's see how that one factors out. Google says the pyramid of the sun at Teotihuacan is 225 meters square at its base. This would be 247 and change in the maya base measure of 91 cm. Not quite what I was hoping for, but close. This would be 12 and 7/20 in base 20. It looks rather weathered and earthy at the bottom though, and the measurement of 225 meters might be a bit larger. Wouldn't take a lot to make this 13 even...

OK, 225 is similar to 230.5 without QUITE as much squinting...

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King of the Americas said:
I've seen the shuttle re-enter both successfully and unsuccessfully...sadly.
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I meant in orbit, and the ISS frequestly even.
I've also seen two "star-like" objects meld together and make a 4 fold larger version of themselves and then split apart again.
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Were you using binocs, bare eye or what? Sounds like optical effects of a lens to me.
These are all VERY different events, with very different attributes and features.
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And you don't have to have some exceptional object whizzing around either.

Ever seen the star dance? That one is the strangest.
 
The Atlanteans live in the deep sea and hide their civilization from us.
Our some similar drivel is behind the "not aliens" notion.
 
Dancing David said:
The Horus, the Horus...
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