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American Physical Society sets climate deniers straight

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in no uncertain terms....
Despite seven months of intense effort to recruit physicists to sign a politically motivated petition disputing anthropogenic climate change, a mere, 0.45% of the American Physical Society’s 47,000 members signed on.

It’s a humiliating defeat for the climate change Deniers who make such false claims as ”many scientists dispute’ and ‘there is no consensus. The Petition drive was announced in the prestigous journal Nature, APS publications, numerous popular and electronic media, as well as heavily promoted by the petition organizers. Despite all of that effort and publicity, a mere 0.45% was all that they could manage.

Consider that the success rate for Nigerian email scams is estimated to be 0.1% to 0.2%, ie roughly speaking about the same. (Tip of the Hat to Grumbine for the genesis of seeking a comparison)
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continues

http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/2009/11/14/only-0-45-of-physicists-sign-denier-petition/

related

http://www.desmogblog.com/another-silly-climate-petition-exposed

and that's hardly all recently

Last month, scientific institutions released a statement about climate change.

Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver. … contrary assertions are inconsistent with an objective assessment of the vast body of peer-reviewed science If we are to avoid the most severe impacts of climate change, emissions of greenhouse gases must be dramatically reduced.
Who were those minor little organizations that put their institutional power and reputation behind those words?

American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Chemical Society
American Geophysical Union
American Institute of Biological Sciences
American Meteorological Society
American Society of Agronomy
American Society of Plant Biologists
American Statistical Association
Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
Botanical Society of America
Crop Science Society of America
Ecological Society of America
Natural Science Collections
Alliance Organization of Biological Field Stations
Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
Society of Systematic Biologists
Soil Science Society of America
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research

APS’s continuing review of the petition is what led to it not being among them.

And, a month later, the APS Council Overwhelmingly Rejects Proposal to Replace Society’s Current Climate Change Statement and, implicitly, joins those 18 institutions in seeking to inject science into the policy discussion about how best to tackle climate change.
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http://climateprogress.org/2009/10/...e-projected-to-worsen-substantially-and-if-w/
 
Ouch, that's pretty damning. I wonder where all of our AGW-deniers are? Weren't many of them the ones crowing on and on about how all of these physicists were signing on to statements which denied climate science?

That's some pretty hilarious fail...

 
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Anyone have any good books or websites that go over and debunk all of the AGW deniers claims? I know this forum has tons of threads on the subject but I was wondering if there is a nice summary somewhere.
 
Sorry, but this won't stop them and they'll do what they can to be as disruptive as possible.
 
Eyeron said:
Sorry, but this won't stop them and they'll do what they can to be as disruptive as possible.
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True, but it is yet one more piece of evidence which reveals the deniers & their tactics for what they really are... and it just might help convince legitimate fence-sitters.
 
What I found amusing was it now puts the instigators of the survey firmly into the conspiracy camp.
They put out quite the effort.

The Petition drive was announced in the prestigous journal Nature, APS publications, numerous popular and electronic media, as well as heavily promoted by the petition organizers. Despite all of that effort and publicity, a mere 0.45% was all that they could manage.
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so much for the innocent inquirers - organized manufactured controversy. :mgbanghead
 
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macdoc said:
What I found amusing was it now puts the instigators of the survey firmly into the conspiracy camp.
They put quite the effort.

so much for the innocent inquirers - organized manufactured controversy. :mgbanghead
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I think "cynical, lying bastards" would be a more appropriate description :)
 
Hey, the anti-Climate-Change folk are Just Asking Questions™ about the subject. ;)
 
I'm sure mhaze and kallsop are typing up their cogent and logical explanations for this news right now...
 
Personally I've never really seen what the problem with combatting human pollution is.

Even if the AGW'ers are right and all the scientific data pointing to a human component to global climate change is just a pure coincidence, why is it BAD to stop pumping so much random pollutants into the air?
Most of the stuff is poison to either humans or the environment, so surely not doing that makes sense regardless?

I know the economic impact is often cited, but will it really be so much worse than, to name but a random example, greedy bankers plunging the whole world into a depression?
At least we can plan for whatever the extra costs of cleaner life would be.
 
I've never been one who made the argument from authority to begin with, and I'm not impressed by this latest instance of it.
 
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