Alright, but what NOW...

[King of the Americas]

New Orleans is a mud hole, Biloxi has been largely flattened, and hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions are homeless or are without electricity, clean water, and sewer facilities.

What do we do now???

This 'tent city' solution, or the housing them in athletic facilities is a VERY short term solution, at best.

I am thinking the 'survivors' should be entered into a database, seperated into subgroups of families and extended friends and families, and then resettled in real homes as close to one another as possible, but broadcast enough to allow them to find work.

A list should be made of EVERY empty rental house and or apartment building, across America. Then "Goodwill" should be given a description of the each family so that on the mov ein day, their closets already have clothes and furniture in them.

By the end of THIS month, every family should be resettled in a new home, until they can return to their rebuilt homes, if they so choose.

While this is not a permanate solution, it is a longer term one

Displaced residents of the Katrina struck area, should be 'housed' or resettled in actual homes, ASAP.

So how would one go about submitting this plan, and to whom would you do so???

 

[JenJen]

It's already happening. Hundreds of pilots are volunteering their time, fuel, and planes to help relocate people. They are creating databases to help people contact family members and there are databases where people are offering shelter to evacuees (see JREF Home page, for one).

Ultimately, these people are going to have to decide for themselves where they are going to live but, many will likely settle where they land after evacuating or close to their families. The charities & gov't will give grants & loans and they are helping people get access to the money that they have in banks.

Jen

 

[Nyarlathotep]

A list should be made of EVERY empty rental house and or apartment building, across America. Then "Goodwill" should be given a description of the each family so that on the mov ein day, their closets already have clothes and furniture in them.

By the end of THIS month, every family should be resettled in a new home, until they can return to their rebuilt homes, if they so choose.

Do you have a clue about the sheer logistics of what you propose? It would take months. No way in hell it could be done by the end of the month. Now add in the fact that by the time such a list was compiled it would be nearly useless as some of the 'empty' rentals would be occupied and some new ones would be available not on the list.

 

[Psiload]

New Orleans is a mud hole, Biloxi has been largely flattened, and hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions are homeless or are without electricity, clean water, and sewer facilities.

What do we do now???

This 'tent city' solution, or the housing them in athletic facilities is a VERY short term solution, at best.

I am thinking the 'survivors' should be entered into a database, seperated into subgroups of families and extended friends and families, and then resettled in real homes as close to one another as possible, but broadcast enough to allow them to find work.

A list should be made of EVERY empty rental house and or apartment building, across America. Then "Goodwill" should be given a description of the each family so that on the mov ein day, their closets already have clothes and furniture in them.

By the end of THIS month, every family should be resettled in a new home, until they can return to their rebuilt homes, if they so choose.

While this is not a permanate solution, it is a longer term one

Displaced residents of the Katrina struck area, should be 'housed' or resettled in actual homes, ASAP.

So how would one go about submitting this plan, and to whom would you do so???

For how long do you propose this "resettlement" should last? Free room and board for how long? A month? A year? Permanently?

Do you have a vacant property to offer?

 

[King of the Americas]

To Nyarlathotep:

Having never seen such a task attempted, I have NO IDEA how long such an endeavor would take. However, given the speed at which everything else associated with this disaster relief happened, I don't see THIS task being done within the year...

That is not to say that it couldn't be done much much sooner.

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To JenJen:

From MY understanding, the survivors were being offer room and board in or rather on cruise ships...

I KNOW relief efforts are pointed in well-meaning directions, but this stuff NEEDS to be ran through a main 'Command Post' capable of communicating with the Red Cross and other relief organizations, directly, with complete access to their database.

What I fear most, is more of the same paced action, for these displaced Americans.

What is so difficult about finding empty houses, if a similiar size as the one each family was living in???

I would think that PAYING for the homes would be the issue, but with present donation levels, I don't see this as undo-able...

 

[JenJen]

Re: Re: Alright, but what NOW...

Do you have a clue about the sheer logistics of what you propose? It would take months. No way in hell it could be done by the end of the month. Now add in the fact that by the time such a list was compiled it would be nearly useless as some of the 'empty' rentals would be occupied and some new ones would be available not on the list.

I agree - it's most efficient to get the resources to them and let them find a place to settle. I think it'll happen surprisingly fast - but much more quietly than the first phase. I think that the majority of people will be out of shelters and working on a plan for their lives by the end of the month. Of course, in this case, that still could leave a lot of people still looking for direction.

Jen

 

[King of the Americas]

To Psiload:

That all depends on how long it takes to rebuild your old home, or if your home will be rebuilt.

Let's start the financing with 6 months, and then go from there as the need appears.

 

[JenJen]

Re: To Psiload:

That all depends on how long it takes to rebuild your old home, or if your home will be rebuilt.

Let's start the financing with 6 months, and then go from there as the need appears.

Come on! You don't wait for a house to be built! Would you sit around the Astro Dome waiting for a house to be built?

Most people will use their money & what they get for relief to find a job and rent a house or apartment or buy an existing house.

Most people are more resilient that y'all give them credit for. Jeez ... what did people do before the nanny state???

Jen

 

[Psiload]

Re: To Psiload:

That all depends on how long it takes to rebuild your old home, or if your home will be rebuilt.

Let's start the financing with 6 months, and then go from there as the need appears.

What about the (many) people who did not live in, or own homes? What about the people who lived in apartments in tenament buildings? What about the people who had no formal living arrangements... as many low income people do not?

I think your idea is not wholly without merit, and it is, or soon will be, happening to a certain extent, but it's just too simplistic to work as you've described.

 

[Jocko]

Re: To Psiload:

That all depends on how long it takes to rebuild your old home, or if your home will be rebuilt.

Let's start the financing with 6 months, and then go from there as the need appears.

As always, you're amazingly generous... with other people's money.

Maybe you should offer your solar-powered bass boat to the recovery efforts. Or your misting device to keep them cool in the sun. Or maybe, just maybe, you could stop regurgitating the bloody obvious and still managing to get it all wrong.

 

[Charlie Monoxide]

Being a freshly minted GOP follower, I have a lot of problems giving handouts to layabouts. I think a more proper course should be moving the diplsaced families to the nearby farms and get them harvesting vegetables, fruit, and cotton.

This would have an added bonus of denying those darn illegal aliens from gainful employment.

Charlie (compassionate conservative) Monoxide

 

[merphie]

I know they are housing several thousand people in an unused military barraks in Muskogee, Oklahoma.

I think this is as good of a solution as the next. I couldn't image the devistation. I've had some bad tornados, but I've always had family nearby who could take me in if I lost my house.

 

[Psiload]

Being a freshly minted GOP follower, I have a lot of problems giving handouts to layabouts. I think a more proper course should be moving the diplsaced families to the nearby farms and get them harvesting vegetables, fruit, and cotton.

This would have an added bonus of denying those darn illegal aliens from gainful employment.

Charlie (compassionate conservative) Monoxide

I say we round 'em up, and put 'em in camps!

Wait... we've already done that. Should we barcode them now maybe?

 

[Jocko]

Being a freshly minted GOP follower, I have a lot of problems giving handouts to layabouts. I think a more proper course should be moving the diplsaced families to the nearby farms and get them harvesting vegetables, fruit, and cotton.

This would have an added bonus of denying those darn illegal aliens from gainful employment.

Charlie (compassionate conservative) Monoxide

What thread do you think you're posting in? Because this is a 400-pound non sequitur.

 

[Charlie Monoxide]

What thread do you think you're posting in? Because this is a 400-pound non sequitur.

Is the OP asking what should the long term solution to the displaced New Orleanians?

Charlie (give em a copy of "Grapes Of Wrath" as well) Monoxide

 

[JenJen]

Being a freshly minted GOP follower, I have a lot of problems giving handouts to layabouts. I think a more proper course should be moving the diplsaced families to the nearby farms and get them harvesting vegetables, fruit, and cotton.

This would have an added bonus of denying those darn illegal aliens from gainful employment.

Charlie (compassionate conservative) Monoxide

No ... I say that we continue to encourage the illegal aliens to flood across our boarder so that we can get our grass cut and cars washed and strawberries picked on the cheap! Nothin' I like more than exploiting a few illegals. Never mind - just dump a bunch more into public assistance and let the hospitals and schools collapse. Import a poverty class of people because we don't have enough here, already. Perhaps if there weren't so many people here willing to take so little, our lower paying jobs would be worth more.

Very compassionate, CM. Unfortunately, you and GWB do seem to stand together. Very sad.

Now ... can we return to the subject?

Jen

 

[Nyarlathotep]

Re: To Nyarlathotep:

Having never seen such a task attempted, I have NO IDEA how long such an endeavor would take. However, given the speed at which everything else associated with this disaster relief happened, I don't see THIS task being done within the year...

That is not to say that it couldn't be done much much sooner.

Okay, thanks to my job I DO have some idea how long it would take, for the rural counties of Nevada at least. We'd be talking a month or two project for just the sparsely populated portions of a sparsley populated state. I shudder to think what it would take for even Las Vegas. I can't even imagine HOW it could be done for some place like New York or LA.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

What to do? Why, I'll wager Mr. Bush will propose what he does for nearly every situation: Tax cuts!

 

[King of the Americas]

I am still not hearing about moving people into more permanate 'houses'...although many HAVE refused rooms aboard these cruise ships.

The Red Cross said, that they wouldn't be financing 'homes' for the displaced. The spokesperson said they were in the business of offering temporary 'shelter' to those in need.

The American public, celebraties, and even some corporations have really stepped up and opened their hearts and wallets to this endeavor, donating huge amounts of time and money to the relief effort. That said, I still haven't heard of anyone getting resettled yet. However, I understand that there isn't a 'single' database wherein one could find and arrange the surivors into groups or subgroups, yet. Supposedly, there are 'several' survivor lists one needs to look over, in order to find a specific person.

The sooner these people are in homes and or apartment, the better for them, the relief workers, and the economy.

There are empty rental homes all across America, and there are plenty of donations pouring in from all areas. Why can't someone set up a Relocation Station, and begin the process of resettling people NOW???

 

[Cylinder]

Being a freshly minted GOP follower, I have a lot of problems giving handouts to layabouts. I think a more proper course should be moving the diplsaced families to the nearby farms and get them harvesting vegetables, fruit, and cotton.

This would have an added bonus of denying those darn illegal aliens from gainful employment.

Charlie (compassionate conservative) Monoxide

Are you implying that employing the unemployed is in some way immoral. I know if I was homeless and out-of-work, I would jump at a chance at farm work, provided I could not find work of my own.

There's gonna be a few construction jobs popping up in the affected areas.