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tyr_13 said:
That looks like, and to my reading of the law very much is, illegal. Besides that, it's also wrong. It's also another gargantuan lie by the Trump camp ('no one met with the Russians'). Kushner needs his clearance revoked at an absolute minimum.
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Lol
You'll have to show us why it was illegal. More importantly you'll have to show us why it was wrong. I'm sure your side would never meet with any foreigner who claimed to have dirt on Trump.
I'm entirely surprised unsurprised by the conservative/Republican spinelessness and covering for this. The election showed me I gave them entirely too much credit in the first place. They will not act on even clear information.

EDIT: Opps, see strikeout.
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Yeah so clear, if you think talking to another foreigner about a presidential candidate is somehow illegal, youve got some interesting ideas about right and wrong.
 
acbytesla said:
Watergate doesn't come close to the speed or the insanity of this scandal. But it still doesn't seem to matter to the Republican party. At what point do people come to the obvious conclusion that Trump has been in bed with the Russians since almost day one?
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Maybe when actual proof is offered of Trump colluding over hillarys emails on their timed release for the election? Any thing else is just our new found friends helping us defeat the enemy left?
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Watergate was drip drip drip for 16 months, Trump has been in office for 6 months and everyone seems to have been involved with the Russians and lying about it. It as long crystallizes that their was nothing innocent about Trump’s obstruction of justice. The only question earlier about that was Trump's intent. There is NONE now.[/QUOTE]
What will be interesting is how deep the left is with Russia. The left is unusually good at stepping in ******
 
acbytesla said:
Watergate doesn't come close to the speed or the insanity of this scandal. But it still doesn't seem to matter to the Republican party. At what point do people come to the obvious conclusion that Trump has been in bed with the Russians since almost day one?
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logger said:
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Maybe when actual proof is offered of Trump colluding over hillarys emails on their timed release for the election? Any thing else is just our new found friends helping us defeat the enemy left?
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acbytesla said:
Watergate was drip drip drip for 16 months, Trump has been in office for 6 months and everyone seems to have been involved with the Russians and lying about it. It as long crystallizes that their was nothing innocent about Trump’s obstruction of justice. The only question earlier about that was Trump's intent. There is NONE now.
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logger said:
What will be interesting is how deep the left is with Russia. The left is unusually good at stepping in ******
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Delusion and Denial is strong with this one Obi Wan.
 
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acbytesla said:
Delusion and Denial is strong with this one Obi Wan.
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Just go ahead and show the proof, personally attacking me doesn't make your argument of obvious collusion. Another reason this has gotten this far is the left is so deeply invested in this now. Its going to be fun once again watching them go through the five stages of grief.
 
logger said:
Just go ahead and show the proof, personally attacking me doesn't make your argument of obvious collusion. Another reason this has gotten this far is the left is so deeply invested in this now. Its going to be fun once again watching them go through the five stages of grief.
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So you're really just going to ignore the email Donnie Jr. released?

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Welcome back

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logger said:
Just go ahead and show the proof, personally attacking me doesn't make your argument of obvious collusion. Another reason this has gotten this far is the left is so deeply invested in this now. Its going to be fun once again watching them go through the five stages of grief.
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The proof has been on the news day after day. There is Trump saying to Lester Holt, that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. There has been lie after lie after lie told by Kushner, Flynn, Manafort, Sessions, Donald Sr and now Jr. There are Jr.'s emails. There are Trump's request of the Intelligence agencies to push back against the Russia investigation. There is no question that Trump fired Comey because he was afraid this boy scout would do his job. That is OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. It's TEXTBOOK.

Now you can bury your head in the sand and refuse to accept this. That doesn't surprise me one bit. Trump has been non-stop lying from day one and you've been right there ignoring every single lie.

Trump was right about one thing though. He could shoot someone in broad daylight in Midtown Manhattan and he wouldn't lose his supporters. Apparently joining forces with Putin to win an election doesn't matter either.
 
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logger said:
Just go ahead and show the proof, personally attacking me doesn't make your argument of obvious collusion. Another reason this has gotten this far is the left is so deeply invested in this now. Its going to be fun once again watching them go through the five stages of grief.
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Welcome back, logger, but have you been in a cave all this time? You need to catch up; the wheels are coming off the Trump wagon, and smart betting says it's going to get worse.
 
logger said:
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You'll have to show us why it was illegal. More importantly you'll have to show us why it was wrong. I'm sure your side would never meet with any foreigner who claimed to have dirt on Trump.


Lol
Yeah so clear, if you think talking to another foreigner about a presidential candidate is somehow illegal, youve got some interesting ideas about right and wrong.
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They were soliciting the product of the Russian Government's labor, which really seems to be a violation of the Logan Act. Obviously Russia thinks it's a thing of value, and so did Trump's campaign. If you think the strawman that everyone is upset about 'just talking' is plausible, then you need better news sources than propaganda and echo chambers.

And I have to show why conspiring with Russia to manipulate a US Presidential election is wrong? It's damn wrong if you're even a little bit caring about the US, but I guess that leaves out Trump. The dupes caring his water though, well, they're really in the wrong. They're supposed to care about the US and its values. They don't.

Hypothetical tu quoque noted.
 
Giordano said:
"Nothing Burgers"- a false diet food. Studies have proven them to be rich, full of facts, substantial, and meaty despite attempts by some marketers to sell them to the ignorant as as lacking calories.
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It keeps getting curiouser and curiouser. The Russian lawyer Trump Jr., Manafort and Kushner met with who was offering dirt on Hillary was also the lawyer representing a Russian real estate company that had laundered 230 million dollars. What makes it interesting is the Trump Justice department suddenly settled the case in May for 6 million dollars. This is an absurdly low fine of 2.9 percent.

Yeah, one big nothing burger.:rolleyes:
 
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