Alan Langdon and daughter Que

Samson said:
Fair point.
But the core question remains, did he always plan to land in Australia where he is a citizen?
Did he calculate he would have a better custody argument for Que there?

If he genuinely planned to sail to Bay of Islands, has he committed an offence at all?
Was he devoid of communication devices, or if he had them was he legally obliged to use them?
These are to me interesting questions.
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After reading these articles, I'm calling it a deliberate abduction. He's an obvious liar.

How hard would it be to disable your own rudder when you're a day out from Ulladulla?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-12/missing-father-and-daughter-found-in-ulladulla/8177274

The resident told the Herald today that Langdon had openly talked about fleeing the country under the cover of darkness.

"He just said 'I'm just going to take off in the middle of the night and no one will know which direction I go'.

"Apart from saying that and the fact that everyone watched him load up so much gear, that's about it."

Langdon told people they were heading to the Bay of Islands but by the amount of gear he was packing, including many sealed buckets of items, it was obvious they were going away for a long time.

Langdon told locals he was dropping his daughter off to her mother, Ariane Wyler, but they would later learn that she was nowhere near that part of the country and was on holiday in Switzerland at the time.
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http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11777788

I smell a fishy rat.
 
Shiner said:
After reading these articles, I'm calling it a deliberate abduction. He's an obvious liar.

How hard would it be to disable your own rudder when you're a day out from Ulladulla?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-12/missing-father-and-daughter-found-in-ulladulla/8177274



http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11777788

I smell a fishy rat.
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I concede.
Of course we know nothing about the mother and how this colourful custody battle arose.
It is easy to imagine they blame each other for possessing incurable character flaws.
 
phiwum said:
If his boat could handle the weather with on rudder, the EPIRB wouldn't be strictly necessary.

I'm a casual day sailor, and don't try to test my limits, but an experienced cruiser might think this is not strictly speaking an emergency. I'm certainly not one to judge his abilities our the seaworthiness of his boat on one rudder.
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I am a fairly experienced blue water sailor. While I might well be willing to risk myself, I would never do so with a child on board. There are too many things that can go wrong very quickly when sailing in an already crippled vessel.

He said that he did not know where he was and that he could not steer his craft. He knew that he was not able to navigate effectively. He had his eight-year-old daughter on board. It is a bit like a pilot saying that since his twin-engine aircraft can fly on one engine there is no reason for him to land just because one engine fails. Fine, I guess, if he is the only one aboard - not so much if his 8-year-old is in the plane with him.
 
Samson said:
I concede.
Of course we know nothing about the mother and how this colourful custody battle arose.
It is easy to imagine they blame each other for possessing incurable character flaws.
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We know it is NOT the first time he "disappeared" a while with the daughter so that it is the second time the mother had to hire somebody to check whether the daughter was. I have no pity for the father. Parental abduction is/was a problem quite a few parents in France where I lived (mostly father or mother taking their children back to a country in north africa while the other one stay stranded in France) and I have no pity for a father or mother doing that.

Throw the book of law at them until they cry.
 
Aepervius said:
We know it is NOT the first time he "disappeared" a while with the daughter so that it is the second time the mother had to hire somebody to check whether the daughter was. I have no pity for the father. Parental abduction is/was a problem quite a few parents in France where I lived (mostly father or mother taking their children back to a country in north africa while the other one stay stranded in France) and I have no pity for a father or mother doing that.

Throw the book of law at them until they cry.
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And then hit him with it again just as a reminder. He clearly does not give a **** about the child, just his widdle feewings.



glue him to the highest mast and see how he sails!!!!!
 
Metullus said:
I am a fairly experienced blue water sailor. While I might well be willing to risk myself, I would never do so with a child on board. There are too many things that can go wrong very quickly when sailing in an already crippled vessel.

He said that he did not know where he was and that he could not steer his craft. He knew that he was not able to navigate effectively. He had his eight-year-old daughter on board. It is a bit like a pilot saying that since his twin-engine aircraft can fly on one engine there is no reason for him to land just because one engine fails. Fine, I guess, if he is the only one aboard - not so much if his 8-year-old is in the plane with him.
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I will defer to your experience, obviously.
 
Monday, 16 January 2017

Kiwi yachtsman Alan Langdon is pursuing Federal Court intervention for the return of his daughter, according to a report. ....

Langdon has been issued a summons to appear in court next week after NZ Police charged him for taking a child from New Zealand. .....

Que is currently with her mother, Ariane Wyler, in Melbourne. Langdon has travelled there to pursue Federal intervention for the return of Que from Wyler, the Milton Ulladulla Times is reporting.

"I'm in court now," he told the Times.


"I've filled out forms and I'm sitting, waiting... "I'm trying to get Que safe, I think she is in danger of being removed from the country ....
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http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11783320

Thursday, 19 January 2017

The six-year-old girl who sailed from Waikato to New South Wales with her father on a 6-metre catamaran has touched down in New Zealand.

Que and her mother, Ariane Wyler, flew into Auckland International Airport from Brisbane on Thursday, with wide smiles for photographers and a waiting friend. ......

Que was able to return to New Zealand after the New Zealand Family Court released her passport so she could come back, said Col Chapman, a child recovery specialist hired by Wyler.

Que's passport had been seized by the New Zealand courts before she and her father disappeared. .....
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/88567058/que-langdon-is-returning-to-new-zealand
 
Allan Langdon is at large and free in Australia.
The threshold for extradition request is not met by the charges laid against him in New Zealand. He is broke, which will surprise few, I think this story can be rounded up by his observing that Que loved the voyage.
I believe him, I believe her.

Luck and skill sometimes are happy bedmates.
 
The Good Lord watches over children and fools is also applicable. Covers them both - daughter and father.
 
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