johnny karate
... and your little dog too.
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Never mind.
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AGW: Caribou Barbie is Tweeting
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When you said it was the nicest thing ever said about her, I took it to mean it was the least mean of the things said about her. That I agreed with. But I disagree that it's actually nice.
The act of calling her Barbie is a complete trivialization of her and her accomplishments. It's exactly the kind of sexist, objectification of a woman that the left usually screams about. Surely you can see that?
The line completely reduces and diminishes her.
I'm reminded of movies or shows where a sexist villain has female supporters who, when asking what they can do, are told "Just stand there a look beautiful". Then she is seen fuming over it. This is always done in order to demonstrate that the man was a sexist tool who only sees women as objects and unworthy of being in his circle of advisors, or being useful for any other reason than to look lovely for him.
Seriously, how can you not see this? How many times do professional woman say things like "Don't call me <X>" where X is like baby, darling, sweetheart, etc. They want to be seen as equal. They want to be seen as just as worthy as any man to have good ideas, accomplish many things, and be successful. They hate being reduced to simply being pretty things to look at.
If this were being said or done to any female left winger, there'd be howls of complaint. Absolutely screeching. Loaded with many comments about how it shows that the right is absolutely pathological with regards to sexism and they are just a bunch of troglodytes. But apparently, if the victim is someone on the right we disagree with. Hey.. it's something nice then. She'd probably appreciate it. Right?
I'm not saying she's worthy of yours or anyones respect. You are free to dislike her and what she believes. But don't diminish her in a sexual manner. That shouldn't even be in the mindset of someone who is truly a strong believer in liberal ideals. It's incredibly offensive and sexist.
ETA: If she actually has embraced this nickname, then I will have to retract my defense of her, and would be just as likely to call her a flaming moron for embracing something that so trivializes her, as a woman.
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Cleon
King of the Pod People
Regarding the spelling "errors," Twitter limits a tweet to 140 characters; it's not uncommon to shorten words in order to fit them in. Some clients (like tweetdeck) actually have functions that will do it automatically.
In other words...The only real "mistake" is the eon/ion thing, and it's really not a big deal IMO.
In other words...The only real "mistake" is the eon/ion thing, and it's really not a big deal IMO.
BenBurch
Gatekeeper of The Left
Well, yeah, the least mean. But I simply don't see it as all that negative given some of the other things people label her.
XBoxWarrior
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The Drama never Ends....
/she's got game
//fark you make it tuff to post a pic here
/she's got game
//fark you make it tuff to post a pic here
Upchurch
Papa Funkosophy
An extremely hilarious sideshow. Palin is sort of the Homer Simpson of politics: a hapless dunderhead who comically blunders through situations, sometimes winning, sometimes not.
Actually, that is good for a laugh. What on Earth is there to be scared of Palin? I think it would be absolutely a riot if she ran in 2012 and made it onto the Republican ticket again.
Plus, it causes her supporters to come up with defenses like this:
You never will understand. Explained step by step, inch by inch, issue by issue, you won't get it. You're a liberal. Your mind doesn't work like that.
You will never get it. What is seen as common sense, you think is insane. All this works the other way around too.
In the Valley of the Blind, the one eyed man is King. Nobody here seems to have 1 eye. With the exception of me of course.
Pointing out that the stupidity of the response to Palin from the liberals on this forum and elsewhere does not mean that we think she is a good representative.
GreNME
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/she's got game
//fark you make it tuff to post a pic here
She not only has game, she can also bust some slick moves on the dance floor:
KingMerv00
Penultimate Amazing
You complain about liberal bias in the forum and then flaunt your own. Bonus points for the red herring.
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Puppycow
Penultimate Amazing
Wow. That is some real illiteracy there.
SezMe
post-pre-born
Now it's your turn to climb on Whip's ass for thinking a simple nickname is "incredibly" offensive. GO!
Puppycow
Penultimate Amazing
This style of writing is more appropriate for teenagers. Sarah Palin, get the hell off my lawn!
I never made that inference. Her popularity in the polls among you lot is what leads me to make that conclusion. Once made, however, this allows me to understand the defensive responses here quite well. It's fascinating.
There are other politicians, you know. Even hard-right, not unattractive women who would be viable candidates for President. Why this one? Why stick with her, when she makes such a fool of herself time and again?
Human nature is amazing.
WTF? That makes no sense.
She is not my lot. Your inference is faulty.
The problem is that you are wrong. Being annoyed by the way that liberals foam at the mouth every time she is mentioned is not the same thing as endorsing her style or views.
You really are on the wrong track.
Its dumb comments like the above that I am talking about R.Mackey.
Taking this a bit too personally, aren't you?
A very large number of people feel she is a good representative of their political beliefs. Pick up a newspaper. If you aren't among them, good for you.
Never said it was. That's not what interests me. What interests me are, instead, those seeking to make excuses for her conduct. There are many in this thread, and it does indeed speak to an endorsement of her views.
For the record, I am not a "liberal." You might want to rethink your own inferences, wherever they actually come from.
Pointing out that you are wrong about me is not taking it too personally.
So? I am aware of that. I am pointing out that you don't have to be one of her fans to notice the over the top reactions by some of her liberal critics.
No it doesn't. Read Cleon's post in this thread. Cleon is about as far away from endorsing her as you can get and yet he made an 'excuse' 'for her conduct'.
OK. It was the fact you said 'you lot' which made me think you were talking about the right wingers on this forum.
Friend, I don't have any idea who you are, apart from your replies here. And those are a bit puzzling.
I don't care about some of her liberal critics. The subject of my thread is her borderline incoherent Twittering from a summit on climate change. Complaining about others "foaming at the mouth" is a diversion, and you're participating in it, why I can't imagine...
Anecdotal. I'm not picking on you or Cleon, by the way. He's certainly entitled to his opinion, whatever his political bent.
I am more concerned with Palin's defenders. That group and "right wingers" are overlapping, albeit not identical.
Upchurch
Papa Funkosophy
In other words, it isn't very politically correct.
I join Whiplash in his push for everyone to be more PC around here. We just shouldn't be allowed to say stuff people might find offensive.