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AE911Truth Watch

Obviously Terral could care less about the truth. Like all who have come before him (at least the ones who aren't out to just make a buck), this is an issue of ideology, pure and simple. It's all about world view. Truth be damned. Evidence be damned. Propaganda is okay as long as it's propaganda from the 'truth' movement.

Preconception ROCKS!

In order to spread the truth, a few lies may just have to be told, eh, Terral?
 
Squibs are still listed as part of the Powerpoint presentation on slides 24 and 66 (the hypothesis slide, before and after). Squibs is still checked off as if he's proven it.

Of course, so is the crazy claim of molten iron and microspheres. I digress.

Squibs are still listed on slides 38-39. The text reads:

Side-by-Side Comparison to a Known Controlled Demolition

-- Note the Explosions (Squibs) on Upper Right Corner --
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Gage has therefore whitewashed his front page, but continues to promote squibs in his online Powerpoint presentation.

This irredeemably destroys his entire argument, however. By removing this item from his list of controlled demolition characteristics, Gage has revealed the Texas Sharpshooter nature of the list. The front page still reads:

As your own eyes witness — WTC Building #7 (a 47 story high-rise not hit by an airplane) exhibits all the characteristics of a classic controlled demolition with explosives:
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Yet one of these characteristics was eliminated as soon as Gage realized he couldn't prove it anymore. Which is it? Has Gage truncated his list and now is calling an incomplete list of characteristics complete? Or should squibs never have been on that list in the first place?

By placing squibs on that list and then removing it while still presenting the list as complete, Gage has revealed his utter lack of authority in presenting this list in the first place. His argument is worthless now.
 
Christopher7 said:
If one statement is wrong then that makes all the other statements wrong.

That's not logic, that's a lame excuse to deny the evidence.
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Perhaps you don't understand Gage's argument. Gage has presented us all with a list of what he calls the characteristics of controlled demolition. He then proceeds to prove every one of these characteristics exist in 7 World Trade's collapse. Therefore, Gage argues, 7 World Trade is a controlled demolition.

The two premises of his argument are the list and how 7 conforms to each item on the list. You are pretending that I have denied the second premise here. I am denying the first, Gage's authority to present a list of characteristics of controlled demolition.

By eliminating an item from his list and still saying that the list is complete, Gage has voided any such authority he might have had. He's merely building a list with the Texas Sharpshooter fallacy. As I go on to demonstrate at the website, he then cannot actually prove a single item of his list, making him the finest example of a Texas Footshooter available. But that is not the issue here. It is on his authority alone that this list of characteristics stands or falls, and by changing the list based on what he thinks he can prove, he has demonstrated the fallacious nature of the list. It is not a serious attempt to list actual characteristics of controlled demolition at all. It's a lousy CT argument.
 
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This is funny. Not ha ha funny, but sad funny. In a ha ha kind of way. Anyway, if Gage supported the 'official story', and it was found that some of his evidence to support it was suspect, people like Terral land Christopher7 would be ALL over it, claiming the rest of his research just may be suspect because of it.

But, since Gage is a conspiracy theorist, he pretty much gets a pass on any lies he tells because, I can only imagine, he is after all seeking the 'truth'.
 
Senor Bushie Was In The "Conspiracy Theory" Business Before Gage And Jones

Hi Twinstead:

twinstead said:
This is funny. Not ha ha funny, but sad funny. In a ha ha kind of way. Anyway, if Gage supported the 'official story', and it was found that some of his evidence to support it was suspect, people like Terral land Christopher7 would be ALL over it, claiming the rest of his research just may be suspect because of it.

But, since Gage is a conspiracy theorist, he pretty much gets a pass on any lies he tells because, I can only imagine, he is after all seeking the 'truth'.
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Hold on one minute! Senor Bushie and his inside-job clan were in the ‘conspiracy theorist’ business pushing the “Official Story” long before Richard Gage or Dr. Steven Jones by claiming 9/11 was carried out by a bunch of Bearded Jihadist Radicals like this using boxcutters and whatnot. Twinstead simply stands with Bush, Rove, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, etc. in defending the Official Conspiracy Story rather than stand with the experts in the field and their CD explanations told by THE EVIDENCE. Never allow these so-called ‘debunkers’ to pretend ‘they’ are anything but ‘conspiracy theorists’ pointing fingers at people like this with their bold accusations. 911Truthers are ‘also’ in the conspiracy business just like Bush, the DoD, the FBI, the CIA and everyone else truly responsible for carrying out these 9/11 attacks ‘and’ for running the ongoing Cover-Up Operation.

Did Bearded Jihadist Radicals give away American Sovereignty by signing the illegal North American Union treaty in March of 2005? No. Bush did that. Did Bearded Jihadist Radicals allow 20 million illegals to run around loose in this once-great-country? No. Twenty-five US citizens are killed EVERY DAY here at home and BUSH is allowing that madness to continue. Bush is the one allowing Ramos and Compean to rot in prison for simply doing their jobs in defending our borders. Are Bearded Jihadist Radicals working behind the scenes to bring in the North American Union NASCO Super-highway? No! Senor Bushie and his newly created ministerial groups are doing all of that behind the scenes to bypass US ports of entry, our unionized longshoremen and truckers to ‘displace’ as many US workers as possible in his constant and unrelenting task of destroying the American Middle Class. That is the reason you have a Department of Homeland Insecurity to place illegal wiretaps on US Citizens ‘and’ 20 million illegal aliens running around loose from sea to shining sea. MANY of you have been DUPED by the Global Imperialist Elites working to bring in their New World Order and simply because Senor Bushie pointed to 19 Bearded Jihadist Radicals and YOU were stupid enough to buy ‘his’ ridiculous ‘conspiracy theory’ based nowhere in reality at all.

The USA is imploding upon itself just like WTC-7 and right before your very eyes, but you would rather stand and defend the inside-job bad guys than simply wake the heck up and look at ‘all’ the Controlled Demolition evidence. In that case, you deserve the coming DOOM facing America even as we speak . . .

GL, because you need it,

Terral
 
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Terral said:
The USA is imploding upon itself just like WTC-7 and right before your very eyes, but you would rather stand and defend the inside-job bad guys than simply wake the heck up and look at ‘all’ the Controlled Demolition evidence. In that case, you deserve the coming DOOM facing America even as we speak . . .
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WTC7 did not "implode." It collapsed.

There is no "controlled demolition evidence."

America is not "imploding." The Troof cult is.

And through it all, you still haven't proved 9-11 was an inside job, have you Terral?

Didn't think so.
 
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Terral just admit you are biased and hold evidence counter to your viewpoint to a different standard than you do evidence that supports it and you'll feel much better about yourself. You know you do it. We know you do it.

I promise. The truth will set you free.

And by the way, exactly how do you know YOU'RE not disinfo? I suspect that "They" have got to you, my friend, maybe blackmail, maybe brainwashing (the NWO are SLY, SLY, SLY!) who knows? Boy, they must have seen you from a mile away. You have disinfo written all over you.
 
Terral said:
The USA is imploding upon itself just like WTC-7 and right before your very eyes, but you would rather stand and defend the inside-job bad guys than simply wake the heck up and look at ‘all’ the Controlled Demolition evidence. In that case, you deserve the coming DOOM facing America even as we speak . .
Terral
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Wow. Ouch, that's going to leave a mark! LOL. I haven't read a good old-fashioned irrational, paranoid diatribe in a while (since the last time you typed one, probably).

Yea yea yea whatever. Rant all you want. You're just the internet equivalent of the bearded old man on the street corner in every big city staring wide-eyed and spewing spittle about how the world is going to end.
 
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Terral said:
Hi Twinstead:




Hold on one minute! Senor Bushie and his inside-job clan were in the ‘conspiracy theorist’ business pushing the “Official Story” long before Richard Gage or Dr. Steven Jones by claiming 9/11 was carried out by a bunch of Bearded Jihadist Radicals like this using boxcutters and whatnot. Twinstead simply stands with Bush, Rove, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, etc. in defending the Official Conspiracy Story rather than stand with the experts in the field and their CD explanations told by THE EVIDENCE. Never allow these so-called ‘debunkers’ to pretend ‘they’ are anything but ‘conspiracy theorists’ pointing fingers at people like this with their bold accusations. 911Truthers are ‘also’ in the conspiracy business just like Bush, the DoD, the FBI, the CIA and everyone else truly responsible for carrying out these 9/11 attacks ‘and’ for running the ongoing Cover-Up Operation.

Did Bearded Jihadist Radicals give away American Sovereignty by signing the illegal North American Union treaty in March of 2005? No. Bush did that. Did Bearded Jihadist Radicals allow 20 million illegals to run around loose in this once-great-country? No. Twenty-five US citizens are killed EVERY DAY here at home and BUSH is allowing that madness to continue. Bush is the one allowing Ramos and Compean to rot in prison for simply doing their jobs in defending our borders. Are Bearded Jihadist Radicals working behind the scenes to bring in the North American Union NASCO Super-highway? No! Senor Bushie and his newly created ministerial groups are doing all of that behind the scenes to bypass US ports of entry, our unionized longshoremen and truckers to ‘displace’ as many US workers as possible in his constant and unrelenting task of destroying the American Middle Class. That is the reason you have a Department of Homeland Insecurity to place illegal wiretaps on US Citizens ‘and’ 20 million illegal aliens running around loose from sea to shining sea. MANY of you have been DUPED by the Global Imperialist Elites working to bring in their New World Order and simply because Senor Bushie pointed to 19 Bearded Jihadist Radicals and YOU were stupid enough to buy ‘his’ ridiculous ‘conspiracy theory’ based nowhere in reality at all.

The USA is imploding upon itself just like WTC-7 and right before your very eyes, but you would rather stand and defend the inside-job bad guys than simply wake the heck up and look at ‘all’ the Controlled Demolition evidence. In that case, you deserve the coming DOOM facing America even as we speak . . .

GL, because you need it,

Terral
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You've been caught lying again. American sovereignty has not been "given away."

When will you stop lying?
 
Terral said:
Hi Twinstead:




Hold on one minute! Senor Bushie and his inside-job clan were in the ‘conspiracy theorist’ business pushing the “Official Story” long before Richard Gage or Dr. Steven Jones by claiming 9/11 was carried out by a bunch of Bearded Jihadist Radicals like this using boxcutters and whatnot. Twinstead simply stands with Bush, Rove, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, etc. in defending the Official Conspiracy Story rather than stand with the experts in the field and their CD explanations told by THE EVIDENCE. Never allow these so-called ‘debunkers’ to pretend ‘they’ are anything but ‘conspiracy theorists’ pointing fingers at people like this with their bold accusations. 911Truthers are ‘also’ in the conspiracy business just like Bush, the DoD, the FBI, the CIA and everyone else truly responsible for carrying out these 9/11 attacks ‘and’ for running the ongoing Cover-Up Operation.

Did Bearded Jihadist Radicals give away American Sovereignty by signing the illegal North American Union treaty in March of 2005? No. Bush did that. Did Bearded Jihadist Radicals allow 20 million illegals to run around loose in this once-great-country? No. Twenty-five US citizens are killed EVERY DAY here at home and BUSH is allowing that madness to continue. Bush is the one allowing Ramos and Compean to rot in prison for simply doing their jobs in defending our borders. Are Bearded Jihadist Radicals working behind the scenes to bring in the North American Union NASCO Super-highway? No! Senor Bushie and his newly created ministerial groups are doing all of that behind the scenes to bypass US ports of entry, our unionized longshoremen and truckers to ‘displace’ as many US workers as possible in his constant and unrelenting task of destroying the American Middle Class. That is the reason you have a Department of Homeland Insecurity to place illegal wiretaps on US Citizens ‘and’ 20 million illegal aliens running around loose from sea to shining sea. MANY of you have been DUPED by the Global Imperialist Elites working to bring in their New World Order and simply because Senor Bushie pointed to 19 Bearded Jihadist Radicals and YOU were stupid enough to buy ‘his’ ridiculous ‘conspiracy theory’ based nowhere in reality at all.

The USA is imploding upon itself just like WTC-7 and right before your very eyes, but you would rather stand and defend the inside-job bad guys than simply wake the heck up and look at ‘all’ the Controlled Demolition evidence. In that case, you deserve the coming DOOM facing America even as we speak . . .

GL, because you need it,

Terral
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so do you have a script that puts the scare quotes around random words or do you do it manually?
 
ref said:
Gage HAS removed the squibs -claim from www.ae911truth.org front page WTC 7 evidence.

And it didn't take long. :eye-poppi
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Are you being sarcastic?
(it's hard to tell on the internet sometimes...)

"Squibs" is still present on the front page.
It's item 4 in the list of "characteristics of destruction by explosions:".


It links here.


below is a screenshot I just took, with the computer clock included.
 

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Good Lt said:
WTC7 did not "implode." It collapsed.
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Pure denial.
You call Gage a liar because the squibs in WTC 7 are inconclusive and then you make asinine statements like this one.

[FONT=&quot]Stacy Loizeaux:[/FONT][FONT=&quot] The term "implosion" was coined by my grandmother back in, I guess, the '60s. It's a more descriptive way to explain what we do than "explosion." [/FONT]


FEMA 5-31
"Loss of strength due to the transfer trusses could explain why the building imploded"
"WTC 7 had a relatively small debris field because the façade came straight down"

NIST L-33
"The debris of WTC 7 was mostly contained within the original footprint of the building."

Building implosion is a fine art. It cannot happen by chance. WTC 7 was a CD
 
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[X] said:
"Squibs" is still present on the front page.
It's item 4 in the list of "characteristics of destruction by explosions:".
It links here.
below is a screenshot I just took, with the computer clock included.
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The squibs in question are the ones in WTC 7, not the Trade Towers.
 
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