Merged Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program UFO'S

[skyeagle409]

You are lying again. The photo clearly shows the lighthouse next to the farm house from where the guards could see it.

The farm house is nowhere near the East Gate and what the guards saw was an object that descended into the forest from the sky and it wasn't a lighthouse either. That is why they went into the forest in the first place.

 

[skyeagle409]

No the Pentagon has done exactly the opposite and denied Dana White said anything after she was sacked for misconduct.

"There is no discernible evidence that Luis Elizondo ever worked for a government UFO program, much less led one."
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01/ufo-unidentified-history-channel-luis-elizondo-pentagon/

Why do you lie so much?

Official records have proven you incorrect. Simply said. Remember, he was the manager.

Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program

Formation 2007
Dissolved 2012
Type United States governmental study
Legal status Secret program, formally disbanded
Purpose Study of unidentified flying objects
Leader Luis Elizondo
Budget $22 million over 5 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Aerospace_Threat_Identification_Program

 

[skyeagle409]

skyeagle409, perhaps you could clarify a couple of points for me?

Firstly, regarding the visibility of the lighthouse. You and Matthew Ellard are at loggerheads over this. I have noticed that, while he has linked to evidence that the light from the lighthouse was visible at the East Gate, your replies constantly refer to the building itself. Moreover, every photo you have posted has been taken in daylight.

I have spoken with those who were there and once again, the lighthouse cannot be seen either at night or during daytime hours from the East Gate due to terrain and forest density. The photos depict clearly just how thick the forest is between the lighthouse and the East Gate.

There was an attempted coverup over this incident and eventually, radar data will be released confirming the objects, and perhaps about the same time, what happened to our weapons at the storage facility. There are parts of this event that has yet to be revealed to the public. So why the coverup?

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Once again, you have no case. The records show that he was in charge and Dana White was the Pentagon's spokesperson at the time.

No she wasn't. You already knew that because you read the article I linked. A defence journalist from Politico, Bryan Bender, said she was when he wrote the article in December 2017 after she left the Pentagon.

Bryan Bender them became an employee of "To the Stars Academy" and appears in the Tom Delonge TV show you are watching.

...but you knew you were lying when you made that claim.

Here's the link again.
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01/ufo-unidentified-history-channel-luis-elizondo-pentagon/

 

[Matthew Ellard]

I have spoken with those who were there and once again, the lighthouse cannot be seen either at night or during daytime hours from the East Gate due to terrain and forest density.

You are lying again. The BBC filmed the light from the lighthouse at exactly the location and time the guards said they saw it. It was there every night until the lighthouse was closed decades later. That's why the police, who went to the same location with the guards, report says "We could only see the light from the lighthouse". Did you forget about the police report, on purpose, as well?

Anyone can watch the 3 minute video. You simply lied again.

BBC Film Lighthouse / 3 min Doco
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendleshamreport_ridpath.mov

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Official records have proven you incorrect. Simply said. Remember, he was the manager.

Wikipedia, edited by Luis Elizondo, is not an official Pentagon document. The Pentagon's press officer has issued a press release and states Luis Elizondo, who claimed he obtained the video as head of the AATIP, never worked for the AATIP

Why do you lie so much?

 

[Matthew Ellard]

My other point concerns a caption on another of your photos.

Skyeagle has been editing out some of the captions and adding bogus compass directions.

He posted a photo of the lighthouse that's caption stated that it only blocked light reaching the town of Orford but not Rendlesham Forest.

Here is the original page that clarifies that he lied.
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/lighthouse_visibility.htm

 

[skyeagle409]

No she wasn't. You already knew that because you read the article I linked.

Let's take a look at the facts.

Dana W. White
Former Assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs

Dana W. White served as the Assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs. In this role, she was the principal staff assistant and advisor to the Secretary and Deputy Secretary of Defense for communications, news media relations, public outreach, engagement, public affairs and visual information.

Ms. White served as the Pentagon Chief Spokesperson for both the Department of Defense and Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis.

https://www.defense.gov/Our-Story/Biographies/Biography/Article/1170857/dana-w-white/

As I've said, you have no case.

 

[skyeagle409]

Skyeagle has been editing out some of the captions and adding bogus compass directions.

He posted a photo of the lighthouse that's caption stated that it only blocked light reaching the town of Orford but not Rendlesham Forest.

Here is the original page that clarifies that he lied.
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/lighthouse_visibility.htm

The photos proved why the lighthouse could not be seen from the East Gate, so once again, you have no case.

 

[skyeagle409]

Wikipedia, edited by Luis Elizondo, is not an official Pentagon document. The Pentagon's press officer has issued a press release and states Luis Elizondo, who claimed he obtained the video as head of the AATIP, never worked for the AATIP

Why do you lie so much?

Let's take a look at his bio.

Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program

The program was headed by Luis Elizondo, ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Aerospace_Threat_Identification_Program


Luis Elizondo
BIOGRAPHY:

Luis Elizondo is a career intelligence officer whose experience includes working with the U.S. Army, the Department of Defense, the National Counterintelligence Executive, and the Director of National Intelligence. As a former Special Agent In-Charge, Luis conducted and supervised highly sensitive espionage and terrorism investigations around the world. As an intelligence Case Officer, he ran clandestine source operations throughout Latin America and the Middle East.

Most recently, Luis managed the security for certain sensitive portfolios for the US government as the Director for the National Programs Special Management staff. For nearly the last decade, Luis also ran a sensitive aerospace threat identification program focusing on unidentified aerial technologies.

Luis’ academic background includes microbiology, immunology and parasitology, with research experience in tropical diseases. Luis is also an inventor who holds several patents.

https://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/elizondo-luis/91799


Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program

The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was a Pentagon program to study unidentified flying objects. It officially ran from 2007 until 2012. The program was secret, but not classified. Its existence was first made public on December 16, 2017, at a press conference (where it was initially introduced as the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program). The press conference was co-organized by Luis Elizondo, who had been in charge of the program, and a related group of interested professionals from a nonprofit organization called, 'To the Stars Academy of Arts & Science.'

https://www.exopaedia.org/Advanced+Aerospace+Threat+Identification+Program

 

[Cosmic Yak]

skyeagle409, perhaps you could clarify a couple of points for me?

Firstly, regarding the visibility of the lighthouse. You and Matthew Ellard are at loggerheads over this. I have noticed that, while he has linked to evidence that the light from the lighthouse was visible at the East Gate, your replies constantly refer to the building itself. Moreover, every photo you have posted has been taken in daylight.
I find this curious.
I have no doubt that I could see the light from a lighthouse, even if the building itself was not directly visible to me. This is even referenced in one of your photos, which says that the lighthouse is not directly visible. Being visible from a distance is kind of the point of a lighthouse, and the visible and necessary part of this is the light, not the house.
Do you have any videos showing that the light is not visible from the East Gate? To emphasise, this means videos taken at night, not during the day.
My other point concerns a caption on another of your photos. It says that the forest was much more mature then that it is now. What exactly does this mean? Obviously, trees grow up, not down, so a forest would mature more, not less, over time. On its own, this statement makes no sense. If it means that that forest was cleared in some way, then the photo is worthless as evidence, as it does not show the situation as it was during the claimed incident.Could you clarify this, please?

I have spoken with those who were there and once again, the lighthouse cannot be seen either at night or during daytime hours from the East Gate due to terrain and forest density. The photos depict clearly just how thick the forest is between the lighthouse and the East Gate.

[qimg]http://www.roswellproof.com/files/orfordness_lighth.jpg[/qimg]

You have not answered the highlighted parts. Perhaps you could try again.

There was an attempted coverup over this incident and eventually, radar data will be released confirming the objects, and perhaps about the same time, what happened to our weapons at the storage facility. There are parts of this event that has yet to be revealed to the public. So why the coverup?

Sorry, but this is irrelevant and unsupported speculation.
Please answer my questions.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Let's take a look at the facts.

Firstly Dana White was sacked in December 2017 for misconduct and thus not at the Pentagon to make that comment as spokesperson.

Secondly, Bryan Bender at Politico who claimed Dana White made that comment is employed by Luis Elizondo and Tom Delonge at "On to the Stars academy" in their History Channel TV show, which flopped "unidentified".
https://www.the-unidentified.net/tag/bryan-bender/

Thirdly the actual Pentagon spokesperson clearly stated "Christopher Sherwood told me that he “cannot confirm” White’s statement."

and "There is no discernible evidence that he (Luis Elizondo) ever worked for a government UFO program, much less led one."

"Yes, AATIP existed, and it “did pursue research and investigation into unidentified aerial phenomena,” Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood told me. However, he added: “Mr. Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program while he worked in OUSDI [the Office of Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence], up until the time he resigned effective 10/4/2017.”

You already knew that from the article I linked and you have been caught lying again.
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01/ufo-unidentified-history-channel-luis-elizondo-pentagon/

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Let's take a look at his bio.

A wikipedia page created by con artist Luis Elizondo about Luis Elizondo is not a Pentagon official document.

The actual Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood clearly stated " "Yes, AATIP existed, and it “did pursue research and investigation into unidentified aerial phenomena. Mr. Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program while he worked in OUSDI [the Office of Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence], up until the time he resigned effective 10/4/2017.”

Why do you lie so much?

 

[Matthew Ellard]

The photos proved why the lighthouse could not be seen from the East Gate, so once again, you have no case.

The BBC filmed the lighthouse from the exact location the security guards saw the lighthouse light. You can't get away from that that. Suck eggs
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendleshamreport_ridpath.mov

Secondly, you consciously lied as you knew that the lighthouse is only blocked to the town of Orford and not Redlesham forest.
"Although a shield blocked the beam of the lighthouse from the town of Orford itself, it did not extend far enough to block the beam from this part of the forest,"
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendlesham2.htm

You also keep pretending to forget, the police report directly states the two policemen could only see the light house. Here is the entire police report about the UFO incident.
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/police.htm

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Sorry, but this is irrelevant and unsupported speculation. Please answer my questions.

Ask Skyeagle what happened to the magical UFO radiation at the lading site? Skyeagle claims to be a radiation expert and yet there is no radiation at the "three rabbit hole landing site". Did rabbits decontaminate the landing site? Skyeagle also refuses to acknowledge this simple question.

Here is an actual photo of the police attending the "landing site" with the security guards and the police state in their report, they can only find rabbit holes and see the light from the lighthouse.

Official Police report into fake UFO landing
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/police.htm

 

[skyeagle409]

My former employer, Raytheon, is bragging about the ability of its ATFLIR to successfully track UFOs.

Raytheon Brags About its UFO Tracking Capabilities

“There’s a whole fleet of them. Look on the S.A.”

The “S.A.” this pilot was referring to is the synthetic aperture radar, which was picking up the objects. And that’s where Raytheon comes in. Instrumentation inside the F/A-18 Super Hornet fighter jets is manufactured by this massive government contractor, including the most important part of this whole story – the Raytheon Advanced Targeting Forward Look Infrared sensor (ATFLIR) which was mounted under one of the fighters and captured the video which prompted the “Look at that thing, dude.”

Is Raytheon, normally pretty secretive about weapons contracts and equipment, upset to be linked to this UFO story?

“We might be the system that caught the first evidence of E.T. out there. But I’m not surprised we were able to see it. ATFLIR is designed to operate on targets that are traveling in excess of Mach 1. It’s a very agile optical system with a sensitive detector that can distinguish between the cold sky and the hot moving target quite easily.”

They’re not upset … they’re excited! At least Aaron Maestas, director of engineering and chief engineer for Surveillance and Targeting Systems at Raytheon’s Space and Airborne Systems business, is. He is quoted on the company’s web site in an article entitled “The UFO Spotter: Navy Pilots Used Raytheon Tech to Track a Strange UFO,” which explains that ATFLIR (designated AN/ASQ-228 by the Navy) is a “single pod that combines mid-wave infrared targeting and navigation FLIRs, an electro-optical, or visual light, sensor, a laser rangefinder and target designator, and a laser spot-tracker. It can locate and designate targets day or night at ranges exceeding 40 nautical miles and altitudes surpassing 50,000 feet.”

Sounds impressive, but Dr. Steve Cummings, vice president of Technology Development and Execution at Raytheon Space and Airborne Systems wants to see more data. His UFO spotter would have …

So, despite the fact that 12 pilots and weapons system operators in six different planes, along with radar operators on the USS Princeton in the Nimitz fleet, saw the UFOs, Cummings wants the next generation of UFO hunters to have better equipment.

From Raytheon, of course.

https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/12/raytheon-brags-about-its-ufo-tracking-capabilities/

Video

https://www.history.com/videos/uss-...aylist_slug=ufo-fighter-pilots-video-playlist

 

[skyeagle409]

The BBC filmed the lighthouse from the exact location the security guards saw the lighthouse light. You can't get away from that that.

The guards did not see the flashing lights from the lighthouse from the East Gate, that fact is well-known since the lighthouse cannot be seen, day or night at the East Gate and that is not why the guards went into the forest in the first place because what they saw was an object that descend into the forest and thought a plane had crashed and that is why they went into the forest.

The guards didn't go into the forest because of flashing lights the preceding night, weeks, months, or years before the December 26, event, yet that lighthouse was there operating all along and no UFO event in the forest on the level of December 26 and December 28, 1980, so the question is, why did they go into the forest on December 26, 1980?

Answer: They saw an object descending into the forest and thought a plane had crashed.

I've heard that Col. Charles Halt obtained statements from radar controllers on duty that night confirming they picked up the the objects on radar.

In 1956, UFOs made their appearance at RAF Lakenhealth, not very far from RAF Bentwaters and RAF Woodbridge, and all hell broke loose as radars tracked UFOs at thousands of miles per hour. In that case, jets were scrambled.

 

[skyeagle409]

Ask Skyeagle what happened to the magical UFO radiation at the lading site? Skyeagle claims to be a radiation expert and yet there is no radiation at the "three rabbit hole landing site". Did rabbits decontaminate the landing site? Skyeagle also refuses to acknowledge this simple question.

Here is an actual photo of the police attending the "landing site" with the security guards and the police state in their report, they can only find rabbit holes and see the light from the lighthouse.

Official Police report into fake UFO landing
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/police.htm

Sorry, but the landing site was not faked and there were valid reasons why the Air Force took those light-alls and set them up outside the area with their lights facing the nearby road.

I've heard fake in regards to a USAF police car and an airman by the name of Kevin Conde who claimed he deliberately turned on his flashing lights in the forest as a prank and skeptics were comfortable with that, but I told them that did not happen. Well, after a few months trying to convince they that Air Force would not have allowed him to take a government vehicle off-base and into the forest without permission. Eventually, Mr. Conde admitted he lied and the rest is history. I mght add that Col Halt stated that the lighthouse was not in-line with the lights they were witnessing and as a result, the lighthouse was dismissed, which couldn't account for the objects in the sky that night anyway.

Now, why did the British MoD cover-up the Rendlesham UFO event and what happened to the missing cast made of the precised triangular imprints at the landing site? I might add, that radiation readings at the site were in fact, above background levels.

 

[skyeagle409]

You have not answered the highlighted parts. Perhaps you could try again.
Do you have any videos showing that the light is not visible from the East Gate?

No I don't, but a video is not needed considering the terrain and thckness of the forest. Remember, the lighthouse is miles away and the forest created an ultra dense barrier between the East Gate and the lighthouse.

Case in point:

To emphasise, this means videos taken at night, not during the day.
My other point concerns a caption on another of your photos. It says that the forest was much more mature then that it is now.
What exactly does this mean?

The forest was much thicker back then, which is why I posted a photo taken shortly after the events in December 1980.

 

[skyeagle409]

Firstly Dana White was sacked in December 2017 for misconduct and thus not at the Pentagon to make that comment as spokesperson.

Let's take a look here.

The US military has confirmed the existence of a Pentagon program to explore UFOs.

Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White confirmed to Politico that the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program (AATIP), a $22 million program to investigate unidentified flying objects, once existed and that it was run by Luis Elizondo, who resigned in early October, according to a report on Saturday.

“The DoD takes seriously all threats and potential threats to our people, our assets, and our mission and takes action whenever credible information is developed,” said White (pictured below).

Elizondo, the career intelligence officer who ran the initiative, told US Secretary of Defense James Mattis after his resignation that efforts at the office were not being taken seriously.

"We tried to work within the system," Elizondo told Politico in a recent interview. "We were trying to take the voodoo out of voodoo science."

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/12/16/545850/UFOs-AATIP-Pentagon-Luis-Elizondo-Dana-White-