Merged Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program UFO'S

[skyeagle409]

You are lying again. The Department of Defence issued a press release stating it was not their video and that Luis Elizondo, who claimed he obtained the video as head of the AATIP, never worked for the AATIP


As a reminder, it was the DoD that released the videos. Here is DD FORM 1910 that was used to authorize the release of the video.

DD FORM 1910
https://media.lasvegasnow.com/nxsgl...nce Request_1556576605509_85063552_ver1.0.jpg

Now, portions of the report

A Forensic Analysis of Navy Carrier Strike Group Eleven’s Encounter with an
Anomalous Aerial Vehicle

On November 14th of 2004, the U.S. Navy’s Carrier Strike Group Eleven (CSG 11), including the USS Nimitz nuclear aircraft carrier and the USS Princeton missile cruiser, were conducting a training exercise off the coast of southern California when the Navy’s radar systems detected as many as 20 anomalous aerial vehicles (AAV). These AAVs were deemed a safety hazard to an upcoming air exercise and the Captain of the USS Princeton ordered an interception with two F/A-18F Navy jets.

This paper examines the publicly available subset of these data: Eyewitness information from the pilots and radar operators; Freedom of Information Act releases of four navy documents; and a Defense Intelligence Agency released video taken by an F/A-18F jet using an AN/ASQ-228 Advanced Targeting Forward Looking Infrared (ATFLIR). Analytical calculations based on radar notes, testimony from the pilots, and the ATFLIR video are used to derive the velocity, acceleration and estimated power demonstrated by the AAV maneuvers. Calculated AAV accelerations ranged from 40 g-forces to hundreds of g-forces and estimated power based on a weight of one ton ranged from one to nine gigawatts.

None of the navy witnesses reported having ever previously seen military or civilian vehicles with these maneuvering abilities. Manned aircraft such as the F-22 and F-35 are limited to nine g-forces27 and the F-35 has maintained structural integrity up to 13.5 g-forces.28 Our results
suggest that given the available information the AAV’s capabilities are beyond any known technology. The public release of all navy records associated with this incident to enable a full, scientific and open investigation is strongly recommended.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WgURI1Fzrkij3utVvcPISGTyEUNX4Z0J/view

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Now, let's read what the pilots had to say about the video.

U.S. Navy pilots reportedly spotted UFOs over East Coast

"These things would be out there all day," Lt. Ryan Graves, an F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot and 10-year Navy veteran, told The Times. "Keeping an aircraft in the air requires a significant amount of energy. With the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we'd expect."

According to the report, the pilots who reported the aerial phenomena "speculated that the objects were part of some classified and extremely advanced drone program." In another instance, one pilot told Lt. Graves that he "almost hit one of those things" and that he described it as looking "like a sphere encasing a cube."

Lt. Graves and his fellow pilots told the newspaper that "the video showed objects accelerating to hypersonic speed, making sudden stops and instantaneous turns — something beyond the physical limits of a human crew."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/navy-p...rk-times-military-unidentified-flying-object/


Navy Pilot Says UFO He Saw Off California Was ‘Not of This World’

A former Navy pilot has opened up about an otherworldly experience he says he experienced in 2004. His testimony comes just days after the Pentagon officially revealed the existence of a secret office investigating the existence of UFOs.

Cmdr. David Fravor, a former squadron leader who worked as a Navy pilot for 18 years, said on Monday he was on a routine training mission off the coast of California in 2004 when his unit was directed to go and examine strange unidentified objects that were descending from 80,000 to 20,000 feet, and then disappearing.

Upon flying 60 miles to the location, Fravor says he saw a tic-tac shaped object, “40 feet long with no wings, just hanging close to the water,” in an interview with the Washington Post on Monday. He said it created a disturbance on the water uncharacteristic of a helicopter or a plane, and moved rapidly.

“As I get closer, as my nose is starting to pull back up, it accelerates and it’s gone,” he told the Post. “Faster than I’d ever seen anything in my life. We turn around, say let’s go see what’s in the water and there’s nothing. Just blue water.”

https://time.com/5070962/navy-pilot-ufo-california-not-from-this-world/

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Now, let's read this report

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Once again, the lighthouse cannot be seen from the East Gate,

You really are a bad liar.

Look at the BBC video shot at the time at 3am from where the men on both nights saw the light. It directly shows the light from the lighthouse.
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendle...rt_ridpath.mov

Even funnier, Halts recording on the second night matches the lighthouses rotation...as captured in the BBC documentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r59u1IqZmQ

You also directly repeated your lie that Orfordness Lighthouse is blocked from Rendlesham forest. It isn't. It is only blocked from the town of Orford.
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/lighthouse_visibility.htm

You also read the police report from the second night, from the same location, where they clearly say they can only see the light from the lighthouse.

You also run away like a little girl every time I ask you about the magical "radiation" at the "landing site". Did magic elves take the radiation away?

Why are you lying so badly? Do you work for "To the Stars Academy"?

 

[Matthew Ellard]

You are lying again. The Department of Defence issued a press release stating it was not their video and that Luis Elizondo, who claimed he obtained the video as head of the AATIP, never worked for the AATIP

As a reminder, it was the DoD that released the videos.

No. You are lying again and using forgeries from "to the Stars academy".

The fake video was handed to the New York Times by Luis Elizondo, in a hotel room, who also claimed he was the former head of the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program

The Dod issued a press release that they did not release any such video and that Luis Elizondo never worked on the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program.

"Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood told me. However, he added: “Mr. Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program while he worked in OUSDI [the Office of Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence], up until the time he resigned effective 10/4/2017.”

That directly contradicts an email sent by a spokesperson for To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science, a UFO research and entertainment company that Elizondo joined after he left the Defense Department."
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01/...ondo-pentagon/

Why are you telling so many lies?

 

[skyeagle409]

No. You are lying again and using forgeries from "to the Stars academy".

Sorry, but you are incorrect and even the DoD, Navy and its pilots do not agree with you.

 

[skyeagle409]

You really are a bad liar.

That won't work for you because the facts and photos are clear-cut; you cannot see the lighthouse with a light-blocking shield installed that's facing the East Gate that is miles away. Your photo and video didn't cut it because they were not taken near the East Gate.

* There was no lighthouse UFO report from the East Gate on December 10, 1980

* There was no lighthouse UFO report from the East Gate on November 26, 1980

* There was no lighthouse UFO report from the East Gate on October 26, 1980

* There was no lighthouse UFO report from the East Gate on September 26, 1980

* There was no lighthouse UFO report from the East Gate on August 26, 1980

* There was no lighthouse UFO report from the East Gate on July 26, 1980


This is what the lighthouse with the light-blocking shield installed looks like facing the East Gate many miles away, not to mention the thick forest layer between the lighthouse and the East Gate.

Case Closed!

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Sorry, but you are incorrect and even the DoD, Navy and its pilots do not agree with you.

No. You simply keep getting caught lying and repeating the same lies over and over again.

For lovers of facts here is Ian Ridpath giving an entertaining 40 minute lecture destroying each one of your lies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YqhhMVH3Vs

 

[Matthew Ellard]

This is what the lighthouse with the light-blocking shield installed looks like facing the East Gate many miles away, not to mention the thick forest layer between the lighthouse and the East Gate.

You are lying again. The lighthouse is only blocked towards the town of Orford.

"A white shield blocked the light from the town of Orford but not from the forest where the sighting occurred."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident

There is a whole video on this that you are pretending to forget on purpose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP0lpGLQKQo

 

[skyeagle409]

You are lying again. The lighthouse is only blocked towards the town of Orford.

The light-blocking shield faces the East Gate, and even then, the lighthouse cannot be seen miles away from the East Gate through the thick forest.

As I've said, you cannot see the lighthouse from the East Gate because it was impossible due to the forest, which has been confirmed by those who were there and supported by photos they and I, posted.

 

[skyeagle409]

No. You simply keep getting caught lying and repeating the same lies over and over again.

You are incorrect, and here's further proof that you are incorrect.

Reports: Pentagon Spent Millions on UFO Research

The initiative, under the sinister-sounding label Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, began in 2007 at the behest of former Senate majority leader Harry Reid, with support from two now-deceased senators, Daniel Inouye of Hawaii and Ted Stevens of Alaska. It was run out of the Pentagon by Luis Elizondo, a military intelligence official, before officially winding down in 2012. Elizondo and others maintain that despite the absence of government funding, the program has continued its research, with help from the Navy and CIA. But Elizondo quit his Pentagon post earlier this year, complaining in a letter to Defense Secretary James Mattis that his research was not being taken seriously.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017...n-spent-millions-on-ufo-research.html?gtm=top


Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program

The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was a secret investigatory effort funded by the United States Government to study unidentified flying objects. The program was first made public on December 16, 2017. The program began in 2007, with funding of $22 million over the five years until the available appropriations were ended in 2012. The program began in the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency. Although the official AATIP program has ended, a related group of interested professionals have extended the effort, founding a nonprofit organization called "To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science".

Formation: 2007
Dissolved: 2012
Type: United States governmental study
Legal status: Secret program, formally disbanded
Purpose: Study of unidentified flying objects
Leader: Luis Elizondo
Budget: $22 million over 5 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Aerospace_Threat_Identification_Program


The Pentagon’s Secret Search for UFOs

The Pentagon, at the direction of Congress, a decade ago quietly set up a multimillion-dollar program to investigate what are popularly known as unidentified flying objects—UFOs.

The “unidentified aerial phenomena” claimed to have been seen by pilots and other military personnel appeared vastly more advanced than those in American or foreign arsenals. In some cases they maneuvered so unusually and so fast that they seemed to defy the laws of physics, according to multiple sources directly involved in or briefed on the effort and a review of unclassified Defense Department and congressional

According to a Pentagon official, the AATIP program was ended “in the 2012 time frame,” but it has recently attracted attention because of the resignation in early October of Luis Elizondo, the career intelligence officer who ran the initiative. In his resignation letter, addressed to Secretary of Defense James Mattis, Elizondo said the efforts of his program were not being taken sufficiently.

Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White confirmed to POLITICO that the program existed and was run by Elizondo. But she could not say how long he was in charge of it and declined to answer detailed questions about the office or its work, citing concerns about the closely held nature of the program.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/16/pentagon-ufo-search-harry-reid-216111


Former Head of Pentagon's Secret UFO Program Has Some (Strange) Stories to Tell

Intelligence officer Luis Elizondo served as the former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), an initiative launched in 2007 to study reports of UFO encounters. Elizondo departed the Pentagon in 2017; that year, he spoke with reporters at The New York Times, confirming the existence of the shadowy agency and describing its mission.

https://www.livescience.com/65596-ufo-pentagon-history-channel.html

 

[skyeagle409]

No. You are lying again and using forgeries from "to the Stars academy".

The fake video was handed to the New York Times by Luis Elizondo, in a hotel room, who also claimed he was the former head of the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program

The Dod issued a press release that they did not release any such video and that Luis Elizondo never worked on the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program.

"Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood told me. However, he added: “Mr. Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program while he worked in OUSDI [the Office of Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence], up until the time he resigned effective 10/4/2017.”

That directly contradicts an email sent by a spokesperson for To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science, a UFO research and entertainment company that Elizondo joined after he left the Defense Department."
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01/...ondo-pentagon/

Why are you telling so many lies?

Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program

The program manager, Luis Elizondo, said on December 19, 2017, that he believed there was "very compelling evidence we may not be alone."

Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White confirmed to POLITICO that the program existed and was run by Elizondo.

Case Closed!!

 

[Matthew Ellard]

The light-blocking shield faces the East Gate, and even then, the lighthouse cannot be seen miles away from the East Gate through the thick forest.

You first lied and said the lighthouse was blocked towards Rendlesham Forest. It is isn't.

You then lied again and said it could not be seen by the guards, while we all watched the BBC crew film the light from the lighthouse at 3am from the guard's exact location.

You then posted a photo of the farmhouse with the lighthouse clearly in the background of the farmhouse, that is specifically mentioned by all the guards in their reports.

You have simply lied and lied and lied.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Program manager, Luis Elizondo, said on December 19, 2017, that he believed there was "very compelling evidence we may not be alone."

You are lying again. Luis Elizondo never worked on the program.

"Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood told me. However, he added: “Mr. Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program while he worked in OUSDI [the Office of Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence], up until the time he resigned effective 10/4/2017.”

That directly contradicts an email sent by a spokesperson for To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science, a UFO research and entertainment company that Elizondo joined after he left the Defense Department."
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01/...ondo-pentagon/

Luis Elizondo works for "To the Stars academy" which sells rock band t-shirts for Tom Delonge's new band "Angels and Airways".
https://tothestars.media/collections/all-products

Why are you such a compulsive liar?

 

[skyeagle409]

You first lied and said the lighthouse was blocked towards Rendlesham Forest. It is isn't.

You then lied again and said it could not be seen by the guards, while we all watched the BBC crew film the light from the lighthouse at 3am from the guard's exact location.

You then posted a photo of the farmhouse with the lighthouse clearly in the background of the farmhouse, that is specifically mentioned by all the guards in their reports.

You have simply lied and lied and lied.

You posted a photo that is nowhere near the East Gate. Now, Col Charles Halt, who was the deputy base commander at the time has now obtained statements from radar controllers stating they were tracking the object during the event.

 

[skyeagle409]

You are lying again. Luis Elizondo never worked on the program.

"Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood told me. However, he added: “Mr. Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program while he worked in OUSDI [the Office of Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence], up until the time he resigned effective 10/4/2017.”

That directly contradicts an email sent by a spokesperson for To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science, a UFO research and entertainment company that Elizondo joined after he left the Defense Department."
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01/...ondo-pentagon/

Luis Elizondo works for "To the Stars academy" which sells rock band t-shirts for Tom Delonge's new band "Angels and Airways".
https://tothestars.media/collections/all-products

Why are you such a compulsive liar?

To put it simply, the Pentagon has confirmed what I have stated is true.

When Top Gun Pilots Tangled with a Baffling Tic-Tac-Shaped UFO

Fighter pilots and radar operators from the USS Nimitz describe their terrifying—and still inexplicable—2004 encounter.

It began as a routine naval training exercise. But it would soon become one of the best-documented—and most baffling—UFO sightings of the 21st century.

Witnesses included highly trained military personnel—among them several deeply experienced radar operators and fighter pilots—who at the time of the sightings were at the controls of arguably the most advanced flight technology ever created. And yet none can explain what they saw.

At about 2 p.m., two F/A-18F Super Hornet fighter jets from the Nimitz received an unusual order from an operations officer aboard the Princeton. Already airborne, the pilots were told to stop their training maneuvers and proceed to new coordinates for a “real-world” task.

A puzzling presence at 80,000 feet

The Princeton’s highly advanced radar had been picking up mysterious objects for several days by then. The Navy called them “anomalous aerial vehicles,” or AAVs—a term the military preferred to unidentified flying objects, or UFOs, which had been tainted by its association with flying saucers, little green men and countless crackpots.

According to Kevin Day, the Princeton’s senior radar operator at the time, his screen showed well over 100 AAVs over the course of the week. “Watching them on the display was like watching snow fall from the sky,” he says in his first-ever on-camera interview, for HISTORY’s “Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation.”

According to Day, the AAVs appeared at an altitude greater than 80,000 feet, far higher than commercial or military jets typically fly. Initially, the Princeton’s radar team didn’t believe what they were seeing, chalking up the anomalies to an equipment malfunction. But after they determined that everything was operating as it should and they began detecting instances in which the AAVs dropped with astounding speed to lower, busier airspace, Day approached the Princeton’s commander about taking action.

Two fighters were diverted to intercept one of the strange objects. When they first arrived on the scene, the pilots didn’t see any flying objects. But they did observe what the lead pilot, Commander David Fravor, later referred to as a “disturbance” in the ocean. The water was churning, with white waves breaking over what looked like a large object just under the surface.

Then they noticed one of the objects flying about 50 feet above the water. Fravor, the commander of the elite Black Aces squadron who was a Top Gun program graduate with more than 16 years of flying experience, described it as about 40 feet long, shaped like a Tic Tac candy and with no obvious means of propulsion: "It's white. It has no wings. It has no rotors. I go, 'Holy ◊◊◊◊, what is that?'"

As Fravor flew around it, he says the craft ascended and came right at his plane: “All of a sudden it kind of turns and rapidly accelerates—beyond anything I’ve seen—crosses my nose, and…it’s gone.”

As the Tic Tac accelerated into the distance, according to Day, Navy jets began launching off the carrier to try and intercept the other mysterious objects the Princeton’s radar was tracking.

https://www.history.com/news/uss-nimitz-2004-tic-tac-ufo-encounter

It is just a matter of time before full disclosure is made. Looking at the record books, UFOs over Southern California and its coast line is more common than one would think. In fact, during the Roswell incident in July 1947, flying saucers were also overflying Muroc AFB, now Edwards AFB, CA. in July 1947.

MUROC AFB INCIDENT, CALIFORNIA
July 8, 1947

Series of sightings over MUROC AFB and Rogers Dry Lake, secret test base, California:

Morning: Two spherical or disc-like UFOs joined by a third object. (XII)
Crew of technicians saw white-aluminum UFO with distinct oval outline descending,
moving against wind, (II).
Afternoon: Thin "metallic" UFO climbed, dove, oscillated over field, also seen by test pilot in vicinity.
(XII)
F-51 pilot watched a flat object "of light-reflecting nature" pass above his plane. No
known aircraft were in the area. (XII)

CONFIDENTIAL

HEADQUARTERS MUROC ARMY AIR FIELD
OFFICE OF THE COMMANDING OFFICER
MUROC, CALIFORNIA


1. It has been reported that the Commanding Officer of Muroc Army Air Base had seen flying saucers or discs in that area some time ago. It was further reported that the Commanding Officer called attention to those objects to several other officers at the Base.

2. It is requested that a lead sheet be prepared in order to obtain a description of what was seen to include time, places, altitude, speed, flight characteristics and any other information possible.

3. You are advised that discretion and tact will be utilized in subject investigation.

/s/

GRAHAM Deputy A-2

http://www.nuforc.org/Muroc.html

Even Clarence Kelly, father of the U-2 spy plane and the SR-71, became a believer when he, his wife, and flight crew witnessed a UFO near the coast of Southern California.

The Lockheed UFO Case
Nr. Agoura, California
December 16, 1953

The UFO Incident
On December 16, Johnson and his wife Althea were visiting their Lindero Ranch near Agoura, California, which was situated on a hillside facing the coast not far from Pt Mugu Naval Air Station, an aircraft and missile test facility. At about 5 PM Johnson was looking through a window at the brilliant sunset when he noticed a dark elliptical shape in the sky in the direction of Pt Mugu cape. His first thought was that it was a lenticular cloud, or possibly a smoke trail from an aircraft, but it remained stationary and unchanged for several minutes. He called for Althea to bring him his 8-power binoculars and ran outside. By that time the object had begun to move, accelerating away from him in a shallow climb in a direction opposite to the motion of the other clouds in the sky. It seemed to be very large and distant, and moving fast, but he had no real way of knowing its actual size, distance or speed.

The Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwgqFd5ApZM

Extraterrestrial visitation is a fact and over the years, there have been thousands of aerial encounters between military, commercial and private aircraft around the world.

 

[skyeagle409]

No. You are lying again and using forgeries from "to the Stars academy".

Sorry, but you are incorrect and even the pilots involved disagree with you.

Luis Elizondo, Former Head of the Pentagon’s UFO Project

Luis Elizondo is a career intelligence officer whose experience includes working with the U.S. Army, the Department of Defense, the National Counterintelligence Executive, and the Director of National Intelligence. As a former Special Agent In-Charge, Elizondo conducted and supervised highly sensitive espionage and terrorism investigations around the world. As an intelligence Case Officer, he ran clandestine source operations throughout Latin America and the Middle East.

Most recently, Elizondo managed the security for certain sensitive portfolios for the US Government as the Director for the National Programs Special Management Staff. For nearly the last decade, Elizondo also ran a sensitive aerospace threat identification program focusing on unidentified aerial technologies. Elizondo’s academic background includes Microbiology, Immunology and Parasitology, with research experience in tropical diseases. Elizondo is also an inventor who holds several patents.

http://www.openminds.tv/luis-elizondo-former-head-of-the-pentagons-ufo-project/42395


Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program

The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program has generated a currently 490 page report that documents alleged worldwide UFO sightings over several decades.

The program was headed by Luis Elizondo, who resigned from the Pentagon in October 2017....

On May 26, 2019, The New York Times reported that U.S. Navy pilots fully briefed AATIP about encounters they had with unexplained objects during the summer of 2014 to March 2015 while flying at high altitudes off the East Coast of the United States.

Intelligence officer Luis Elizondo served as the former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), an initiative launched in 2007 to study reports of UFO encounters.

...former military intelligence official Luis Elizondo, who in 2017 in a New York Times report confirmed the existence of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, a hidden Pentagon government unit that he directed.

https://deadline.com/2019/03/unidentified-history-channel-ufo-series-luis-elizondo-1202574326/



Videos filmed by Navy pilots show two encounters with flying objects. One was captured by a plane’s camera off the coast of Jacksonville, Fla., on Jan. 20, 2015. That footage, published previously but with little context, shows an object tilting like a spinning top moving against the wind. A pilot refers to a fleet of objects, but no imagery of a fleet was released. The second video was taken a few weeks later.
Credit U.S. Department of Defense

‘Wow, What Is That?’ Navy Pilots Report Unexplained Flying Objects

WASHINGTON — The strange objects, one of them like a spinning top moving against the wind, appeared almost daily from the summer of 2014 to March 2015, high in the skies over the East Coast. Navy pilots reported to their superiors that the objects had no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes, but that they could reach 30,000 feet and hypersonic speeds.

The program has also studied video that shows a whitish oval object described as a giant Tic Tac, about the size of a commercial plane, encountered by two Navy fighter jets off the coast of San Diego in 2004.

The sightings were reported to the Pentagon’s shadowy, little-known Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, which analyzed the radar data, video footage and accounts provided by senior officers from the Roosevelt.

Luis Elizondo, a military intelligence official who ran the program until he resigned in 2017, called the sightings “a striking series of incidents.”

Lieutenant Graves still cannot explain what he saw. In the summer of 2014, he and Lt. Danny Accoin, another Super Hornet pilot, were part of a squadron, the VFA-11 “Red Rippers” out of Naval Air Station Oceana, Va., that was training for a deployment to the Persian Gulf.

Lieutenants Graves and Accoin spoke on the record to The Times about the objects. Three other pilots in the squadron also spoke to The Times about the objects but declined to be named.

What was strange, the pilots said, was that the video showed objects accelerating to hypersonic speed, making sudden stops and instantaneous turns — something beyond the physical limits of a human crew.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White confirmed to POLITICO that the program existed and was run by Elizondo.

Dana White was the former assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs. That's why you didn't provide a link. You also forgot to mention that white was sacked in December 2017 for misconduct.


You also forgot to mention that Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood told me that he “cannot confirm” White’s statement.
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01/ufo-unidentified-history-channel-luis-elizondo-pentagon/

Here is the real link from the Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood .
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01/ufo-unidentified-history-channel-luis-elizondo-pentagon/

"There is no discernible evidence that he ever worked for a government UFO program, much less led one."

"Yes, AATIP existed, and it “did pursue research and investigation into unidentified aerial phenomena,” Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood told me. However, he added: “Mr. Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program while he worked in OUSDI [the Office of Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence], up until the time he resigned effective 10/4/2017.”

Why do you lie so much?

 

[Matthew Ellard]

To put it simply, the Pentagon has confirmed what I have stated is true.

No the Pentagon has done exactly the opposite and denied Dana White said anything after she was sacked for misconduct.

"Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood told me that he “cannot confirm” White’s statement"
"There is no discernible evidence that Luis Elizondo ever worked for a government UFO program, much less led one."
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01/ufo-unidentified-history-channel-luis-elizondo-pentagon/

Why do you lie so much?

 

[Matthew Ellard]

You posted a photo that is nowhere near the East Gate. Now, Col Charles Halt, who was the deputy base commander at the time has now obtained statements from radar controllers stating they were tracking the object during the event.

You are lying again. The photo clearly shows the lighthouse next to the farm house from where the guards could see it. It is the same farmhouse in they all mention in their reports.........right before he Halt, says the light is near the coast behind the farmhouse.

Cabansag, however, reported that the only light they saw after actually leaving the base was the one that all three men eventually identified as a lighthouse or beacon beyond the farmhouse. Cabansag reported that the yellow haze had simply been the glow from the farmhouse lights. Once they reached the field, they turned around and returned to base without further incident.
https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4135

Can you name these radar people who changed their minds 30 years later. Oddly Halt can't remember their names either.

 

[skyeagle409]

Dana White was the former assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs. That's why you didn't provide a link. You also forgot to mention that white was sacked in December 2017 for misconduct.

Once again, you have no case. The records show that he was in charge and Dana White was the Pentagon's spokesperson at the time.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

skyeagle409, perhaps you could clarify a couple of points for me?

Firstly, regarding the visibility of the lighthouse. You and Matthew Ellard are at loggerheads over this. I have noticed that, while he has linked to evidence that the light from the lighthouse was visible at the East Gate, your replies constantly refer to the building itself. Moreover, every photo you have posted has been taken in daylight.
I find this curious.
I have no doubt that I could see the light from a lighthouse, even if the building itself was not directly visible to me. This is even referenced in one of your photos, which says that the lighthouse is not directly visible. Being visible from a distance is kind of the point of a lighthouse, and the visible and necessary part of this is the light, not the house.
Do you have any videos showing that the light is not visible fom the East Gate? To emphasise, this means videos taken at night, not during the day.
My other point concerns a caption on another of your photos. It says that the forest was much more mature then that it is now.
What exactly does this mean? Obviously, trees grow up, not down, so a forest would mature more, not less, over time. On its own, this statement makes no sense. If it means that that forest was cleared in some way, then the photo is worthless as evidence, as it does not show the situation as it was during the claimed incident.
Could you clarify this, please?