ACTA Treaty: Opinions

I think this should be discussed out in the open where everyone can see just what this treaty is about.
Although you keep saying you want to discuss this issue, it seems that you're perversely reluctant to participate in a discussion, preferring instead to post what seems like snippets copied and pasted from some absurdly paranoid rant from a conspiracy theorist

Google define:discussion

In keeping with a discussion, you have been asked numerous questions

Try addressing them
 
I think this should be discussed out in the open where everyone can see just what this treaty is about. What if this treaty severely affects our rights and privacy online?

I think any citizens who are members of the signatory nations to this treaty are entitled to know.
It's a good thing that the terms of this treaty will be made public before it's ratified then, isn't it?
 
The Prestige,

But how much time would be present between when the treaty was signed and it was then to go before the Senate?

Probably not long enough for any protest movement to gain sufficient momentum, and alert people to the negative aspects of the law before it's being signed


INRM
 
1) Why are you assuming there is some sort of rush to get it ratified before anyone can discuss it?

2) Why are you assuming there would even be a need for a protest movement?
 
1) Why are you assuming there is some sort of rush to get it ratified before anyone can discuss it?

2) Why are you assuming there would even be a need for a protest movement?

3) Why have you (INRM) ignored so many simple, straightforward questions posed in what is meant to be a discussion?
 
Maybe if someone sympathizes/empathizes...

INRM, just so you don't feel like everyone's picking on you, let me say that IF what you are a little too worried about was true, then I'd be concerned, also.

In fact, I really don't know if anyone here is in favor of this Administration or any Administration, bundling secret treaties up in black bags and pushing them through ratification at gunpoint.

BUT - other than your worries, you have showed nothing to indicate that this would be allowed to happen under our present form of government. Can you give one example of a treaty that was railroaded through over a holiday weekend and which did not have time for public scrutiny and Congressional oversight?

Treaties are negotiated by diplomats and/or field specialists appointed by their government or administration. This means they are given a certain amount of leeway, but not total authority. They do not negotiate in public, generally, nor through the press, internet or blogosphere. They are not necessarily automatically approved, either. What they sign off during the meetings still gets approval.
(Have you heard about Kyoto?)

Oh, and instead of repeatedly stating your opinion, you answered some of the direct questions. We get it, okay? You're not terribly subtle so we know what you're saying and where your obviously leading questions are leading. So instead of lecturing by restating your position over and over, why not try entering into a dialogue?
 
In fact, I really don't know if anyone here is in favor of this Administration or any Administration, bundling secret treaties up in black bags and pushing them through ratification at gunpoint.
Nobody in here, but us chickens

;)
 
Foolmewunz,

I do not think Six7's is evil incarnate, I may disagree with him sometimes, that's about as far as it goes, I don't even know the guy.


INRM
 
Psst, INRM.... we wuz joking. Six7s and I go out late at night and steal camels together from the local casbah. We're old brothers in arms.


Now, is that the only comment you have on this? You merely repeated your paranoia a dozen times over and haven't addressed or even acknowledged anything that anyone's said or asked, really. I get the impression you're quite content to look at the world through INRM colored glasses.
 

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