ACORN filmmaker arrested

leftysergeant said:
It is a federal felony just to interfere with a phone system.
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They did not interfere with a phone system. They've been charged for intent to interfere with a phone system.

Read the affidavit.

I've already spoon-fed all of this information to you with links to the affidavit as well as links to the actual laws with which they've been charged under. How can you still get it wrong?
 
quadraginta said:
I'm not saying that this is a 'good thing'. Just a fact of our post 9/11 lives.
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Actually, in a way, it is a good thing. If the Democrats decide to annul most of the Patriot Act, Diapers Vitter might suddenly jump on board in case any crap from this starts flying his way.
 
leftysergeant said:
Wrong. They entered with the intent to access the phone system.

That's a ten-year felony.
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You missed the words "if nothing else". They can't dodge the entering under false pretenses part. They can dodge the "intent to commit a felony" part.
 
Newtons Bit said:
They did not interfere with a phone system. They've been charged for intent to interfere with a phone system.

Read the affidavit.

I've already spoon-fed all of this information to you with links to the affidavit as well as links to the actual laws with which they've been charged under. How can you still get it wrong?
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They laid hands on part of thje system before they were denied entry to the closet. They were interrupted in the commission of a felony.

Don't drop the soap, boys.:D
 
Newtons Bit said:
You missed the words "if nothing else". They can't dodge the entering under false pretenses part. They can dodge the "intent to commit a felony" part.
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No. The pimp announced to the world that he was going to do something in New Orleans that would be big.

I doubt that he meant that he would get himself arrested looking like a clown.

The pimp is hoist on his own petard.:D
 
leftysergeant said:
There remains, however,no exculpatory evidence of any sort that will leave the pimp and his thug buddies eligible for less than ten years and a few hundred thousand clams in fines.
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I'll take that bet.

How much do you wish to put at risk and who should hold the funds?
 
NoZed Avenger said:
I'll take that bet.

How much do you wish to put at risk and who should hold the funds?
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Want to explain what possible exculpatory evidence the boy could offer? I don't see any. He was there with an enemy of Senator Landrieu after announcing that he was going to do something remarkable. I do not see how he can possibly claim he did not fully intend to diddle the phone system.
 
leftysergeant said:
Want to explain what possible exculpatory evidence the boy could offer? I don't see any. He was there with an enemy of Senator Landrieu after announcing that he was going to do something remarkable. I do not see how he can possibly claim he did not fully intend to diddle the phone system.
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And so you predict he will get no less than ten years and pay a fine of several hundred thousand dollars. And I bet against your prediction.

To be clear, let's set it at you will bet O'Keefe gets no less than 10 years and a fine of no less than $100,000.


So how much are you wanting to put up and who should hold the money? I'm buying a house, so I can probably not go higher than $4,000 or $5,000 at the moment; I'll have to check before I can commit funds and I will certainly want someone trustworthy to look after the money.
 
He has other felony charges pending against him now. This is not good.

I don't put down wagers when there are criminals diddling the system. Vitter and W. Flanagan look dirty in this. Vitter is still insisting that he will not remove his hold on Flanagan's replacement until he has some guarantee that the prosecutor who will be handling the case against the pimp is not going to be replaced as well.

WTF?

Sounds to me like Diapers is stacking the deck in the pimp's favor.
 
leftysergeant said:
He has other felony charges pending against him now. This is not good.

I don't put down wagers when there are criminals diddling the system. Vitter and W. Flanagan look dirty in this. Vitter is still insisting that he will not remove his hold on Flanagan's replacement until he has some guarantee that the prosecutor who will be handling the case against the pimp is not going to be replaced as well.

WTF?

Sounds to me like Diapers is stacking the deck in the pimp's favor.
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Hallmark of a conspiracy theorist: no evidence on earth will ever disprove their pet imaginations.
 
NoZed Avenger said:
Well, if you aren't that confident in your sure-fire prediction, how about $500?
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How about you just tell us what actual defense he can offer for himself?
He can't say that he was not there, that it was not planned, or that he had no malicious intent.
 
$1.25 and a subway token?

Do you have *any* confidence in your sure-fire prediction? You were so confident, before.
 
NoZed Avenger said:
$1.25 and a subway token?

Do you have *any* confidence in your sure-fire prediction? You were so confident, before.
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The logistics of on-line wagers are inconvenient.

Now what defense can you possibly think of that the maggots can offer? It is clear that they committed a crime and just getting a look at the telephone circuits is not going to be anything major, and the pimp did promise something major, so it is clear that they had more than criminal tresspass in mind.

What truth can the pimp possibly tell us that excuses his actions?

And since Diapers Vitter is interfering with the process of replacing W. Flanagan and trying to ensure that a prosecutor of whom he approves handles the case, it seems pretty clear that there is a major crime going on.
 
There's a guest post at Patterico from a federal prosecutor discussing what the Affidavit means and how things will proceed from here.

It's a pretty good read.
 
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