ACORN filmmaker arrested

Dancing David said:
I would argue they hired homeless people as sub-contractors, but that is semantics. And again stupid does not equal corrupt, I would suggest that you need to benefit from it to be corrupt.
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Do you need to benefit financially, or could you benefit in other ways? For example, if you subverted or perverted the democratic process to achieve a political or social goal, would achieving that goal be a benefit signifying your methods were corrupt?
 
theprestige said:
...if you subverted or perverted the democratic process to achieve a political or social goal, would achieving that goal be a benefit signifying your methods were corrupt?
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Only the valid registrations resulted in an extra vote cast. The number of votes cast made it almost impossible for anyone tofudge the results by tricks like "accidentally" getting a few ballots shoved down between bins somewhere in the hand count process.

Did that achieve a worthwhile goal? Of course, and a damned noble one at that.
 
theprestige said:
Do you need to benefit financially, or could you benefit in other ways? For example, if you subverted or perverted the democratic process to achieve a political or social goal, would achieving that goal be a benefit signifying your methods were corrupt?
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That is assuming there was an actual vote fraud, which there was not. They did not subvert the system. Theyw ere stupid and offered people money for more registrations. Now hasd they gone and registered false voters, say who were dead, and then cast votes for them: that would be corruption.

And yes, that would be benefit, fraud for benefit is corruption.

But I don't see where ACORN (at some offices) is more than stupid.
 
Actually, some of the fired ACORN workers are speaking out now for the first time and calling the pimp a liar. He even lied about how he dressed for the filming sessions. He may even have screwed up and had an accomplice, probably that little maggot Stan Dai, film him lying about his costume.

And, remember how I told you that the workers were probablyplaying him aliong to try to rersue the sleaze from him? They have stated that that was what they tried to do, once they realized that he was the supposedly abusive pimp that she was fleeing.

That the little creep never tells a coherent story to the victims is just further proof that he is a lowlife and a sorry excuse for a journalist. He doesn't even meet the standards for the National Enquirer. Can't write for diddly.
 
And, remember how I told you that the workers were probablyplaying him aliong to try to rersue the sleaze from him? They have stated that that was what they tried to do, once they realized that he was the supposedly abusive pimp that she was fleeing.
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We've been through this a dozen times. If this was true, all they had to do was pick up the phone, type and email, or walk into their supervisors office and say what happened. They didn't. They were fired.

Most likely they are throwing this out now in a desperate attempt to make themselves look a little more employable. No one in their right mind should hire them.
 
Neally said:
We've been through this a dozen times. If this was true, all they had to do was pick up the phone, type and email, or walk into their supervisors office and say what happened. They didn't. They were fired.

Most likely they are throwing this out now in a desperate attempt to make themselves look a little more employable. No one in their right mind should hire them.
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You have no clue what the hell you are talking about.

I asked you and all the other ACORN bashers to explain how an operation to resacue her from the pimp would play out and all you can do is squawk "CALL THE COPS NOW!"

It don't work like that.

What they could have done to rescue her in the presence of that piece of excrement O'Keefe,they did. We do not know from anything that pimp and sleaze or Breitbart have said what else they did. For that we have only the words of the ACORN people, and what they were trying to do would probably have workedm had the maggots really been what they claimed to be.

It doesn't matter what the pimp and sleaze say, because they are known liars.

The slimeballs claimed that the pimp walked into the office wearing that outlandish get-up, even made a point of using it as evidence that one of the ACORN workers lied about what he looked like. That is a damned lie and should, in itself, tell you that you called turd boy wrong from the get-go.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
Brietbart seems pretty confident. Seems he still has a few cards up his sleeve:

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The boy is pathetic. He belongs in jail with the pimp, the slut, the wannabe spook and the two idiots in phone company costume.

You can tell that the maggot Breitbart is lying again when new words appear on his blog. What a smug, disgusting little fascist thug. I hope he winds up doing a perp walk with his scummy little operatives.
 
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leftysergeant said:
You have no clue what the hell you are talking about.

I asked you and all the other ACORN bashers to explain how an operation to resacue her from the pimp would play out and all you can do is squawk "CALL THE COPS NOW!"

It don't work like that.

What they could have done to rescue her in the presence of that piece of excrement O'Keefe,they did. We do not know from anything that pimp and sleaze or Breitbart have said what else they did. For that we have only the words of the ACORN people, and what they were trying to do would probably have workedm had the maggots really been what they claimed to be.

It doesn't matter what the pimp and sleaze say, because they are known liars.

The slimeballs claimed that the pimp walked into the office wearing that outlandish get-up, even made a point of using it as evidence that one of the ACORN workers lied about what he looked like. That is a damned lie and should, in itself, tell you that you called turd boy wrong from the get-go.
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You are still wrong, you are still fired.

You don't like the cops, that is too bad, it is their jobs not yours.
You don't like the cops contact the DA's office of the sherrif.

You are very wrong and you are very fired.

You have no understanding of ethics, just your emotional desire to pretend you are doing the right thing when you coukld be doing the wrong thing. That is why professional ethics exist.

You are wrong, you are fired.
 
Dancing David said:
You don't like the cops, that is too bad, it is their jobs not yours.
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You are arguing from facts not in evidence. You have no evidence that they were never in contact with cops as undercover, confidential informants. That is really the best way to operate. If you are doing surreptitious rescues, the last bloody thing you want is to be hauled into court when a pimp gets busted and he has no way of tying you to it. People wind up dead that way.

At any rate, we have no right to eve3n ask, unless they choose to tell us, what they intended to do.

Pimp boy and slut and maggot boy Breitbart had no right to say anything. Just creating the tapes was illegal, and I hope they all do jail time over ther obvious felony in N.O.

And I hope they take Diapers Vitter and two Federal Prosecutors down with them.
 
The facts are Lefty that if they were official undercover agents they would have been better off.

Don't blame me for your lack of evidence. You have absolutely no evidence that they were undercover confidential agents, now do you?

They should have called the cops and told their supervisor, which is the problem. Some Acorn offices were doing things that they should not have done, that is the problem. When the same sort of tactics were used to demonstrate red lining of mortages it was exactly the same situation.

Same shoe, other foot, oh too bad, ACORN messed up in many cases.
 
leftysergeant said:
You have no evidence that they were never in contact with cops as undercover, confidential informants.
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I have no evidence that they were not in contact with extraterrestrials either.

At any rate, we have no right to eve3n ask, unless they choose to tell us, what they intended to do.

Pimp boy and slut and maggot boy Breitbart had no right to say anything.
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And lefty demonstrates, once again, that he doesn't believe in free speech.
 
Dancing David said:
The facts are Lefty that if they were official undercover agents they would have been better off.

Don't blame me for your lack of evidence. You have absolutely no evidence that they were undercover confidential agents, now do you?
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They are not agents, nor had I suggested they were. "Informant" does not suggest agency. Many sorts if crime are solved largely by informants, persons who come forward with evidence voluntarily, either for reward or for revenge or out of a sense of right and wrong. In at least one case, we know that the worker did contact the police in a manner that actually protects ACORN in that it does not require the creatiuon of paper work that would be available for discovery by defense attornies after a successful bust of the pimp and sleaze.

No documentation exists for most police contact with informants unless the intelligence leads to actual issuing of warrants, and even then, there may or may not be data identifying the informant.

I have operated as an informant myself, though I do not think that any of the pimps I trierd to set up were ever charged, or that my input was needed to try them. Generally, it would nt have been neccessary that I know whether anything had come of the contact. In some cases, it simply involved my mentioning something odd that I had seen when I was selling underground newspapers on a street where major drug dealing and prostitution activities were occurring. Sometimes cops would ask me whether I had seen certain characters hanging about or soliciting or harrassing women on the street. I doubt that there was ever any paperwork generated from any such contacts. It would not be a good idea to do so, at any rate.

The one case in which paperwork was generated, this one in the Army, resulted in numerous attempts to ambush me. So, I have seen this from angles from which you haven't. You're flat wrong.

They should have called the cops and told their supervisor, which is the problem.
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And told them what?

Some Acorn offices were doing things that they should not have done, that is the problem.
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Look at the L.A. video again. They do protstitute rescues.

When the same sort of tactics were used to demonstrate red lining of mortages it was exactly the same situation.
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They did not. Flat out fact. The institutions ACORN targetted have, historicly, as a matter of policy, discriminated agaisnst black neighborhoods. ACORN did not offer them a chance to commit a crime and then leave without their having a chance to carry through.

ACORN is not a criminal organization.

Breitbart and the maggots are.

Breitbart's intent is evil, ACORN's is not.
 
Is this thread still alive?

I thought some of O'Keefe's defenders on this thread would be interested in seeing this video of Max Blumenthal being surrounded by angry conservatives at the recent CPAC convention.

Hannah Giles, who was the faux-hooker in O'Keefe's ACORN video, gets off a good one liner when asked about O'Keefe's pimp outfit (that he only worn on the street outside the ACORN office and removed before going inside). Blumenthal wonders why O'Keefe was putting on this "minstrel show", and Giles responded, "But James is a man. He couldn't have a menstrual cycle."

Another conservative asks some ridiculous question abut the Congressional Black Caucus being a racist group.

A Jewish fellow takes a drive by shot at Blumenthal and O'Keefe's paymaster Andrew Breitbart (described by a fellow conservative as "crack addict on ten espressos" does one of his now routine meltdowns.

 
Where does that fat maggot Breitbart get off whining about someone else's trying to destroy people's lives? What a shrieking psychopath.

And did you see the pimp in that clip claiming that he dressed like that inside the ACORN offices? We can now state with 100% certainty that he lied about that, which brings the rest of his crap into question. That we have evidence that he lied about it also suggests that his IQ is far lower than he or his deluded fans think it is.
 
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