Accupuncture works like Botox

The toughest critic, alas, was her husband, who offered a "Yeah, I guess," when asked if he could see a difference.

"We can't go by him," Leivent said. "I think it's amazing. Just amazing."
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Classic. :rolleyes:

I suppose it's possible sticking needles in your face could make the tissues swell for a little while... but that's about it...
 
I think this is the funniest quote
"I think the creases on my forehead are dissipated somewhat, and also around my mouth," she said after her second treatment. "It's hard to tell on yourself."
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Yet she goes on to call it "amazing".
 
Hey, maybe it's the other way round! Botox works like acupuncture!

It's all in the needling, guys. Forget that expensive drug, and just stick them pins in....

Rolfe.
 
Oh, brother... :rolleyes:

Acupuncture and BoTox have absolutely nothing in common, except for the fact that needles are used (and even different needles at that!). It never ceases to amaze me how people will piss their money into the wind in the pursuit of plumbing the depths of ignorance, and that there's a never ending stream of those who will take advantage of that fact.

-TT
 
My mother used to get frown lines when knitting.
I had hitherto assumed this was due to squinting to count stitches.
Clearly, it was the needles all along!

Isn't science wonderful?
 
Soapy Sam said:
My mother used to get frown lines when knitting.
I had hitherto assumed this was due to squinting to count stitches.
Clearly, it was the needles all along!

Isn't science wonderful?
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So therefore, sticking needles into her face would be the homeopathic cure then?
 
Using the same basis of reasoning, a whack on the noggin with a brick or two also works like Botox. So bricks can be used for accupuncture. QED.

:bricks:
 
Acupuncture is surely the trickiest of the sCAM treatments to test. How would you do a double blind test to examine it's effectiveness?
 
Oleron said:
Acupuncture is surely the trickiest of the sCAM treatments to test. How would you do a double blind test to examine it's effectiveness?
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They've tried using needling at non-acupuncture points as the control (though since every point on the body features on some acupuncture chart somewhere, this can be a bit difficult to agree on), and some people have developed sham needles which don't penetrate (like a stage dagger).

You can't blind the operator, though.

Hey, it's not the worst one to blind. Try blinding a magnet therapy trial to the patients!

Rolfe.
 
Oleron said:
Acupuncture is surely the trickiest of the sCAM treatments to test. How would you do a double blind test to examine it's effectiveness?
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I think with this use a test is possible and no DBPC is needed.
Take 3 groups, make photos of them.
Group 1 gets botox treatment, Group 2 acupuncture and 3 nothing.

Take new photos 1 month later.

Present Photos to qualified Medics and ask them, without telling about the 3 groups, which of the patients received some sort of treatment.

Carn
 
Carn said:
I think with this use a test is possible and no DBPC is needed.
Take 3 groups, make photos of them.
Group 1 gets botox treatment, Group 2 acupuncture and 3 nothing.

Take new photos 1 month later.

Present Photos to qualified Medics and ask them, without telling about the 3 groups, which of the patients received some sort of treatment.

Carn
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Independent, blinded committee. That would definitely work.

-TT
 
Hey, I've been known to whack myself in the head with sharp objects (sometimes not intentionally) and I'll tel you that it doesn't do a dang thing for my face in terms of making it look better.
 
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