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Abortion? The final conclusions?

Under what circumstances should abortion be allowed?

  • It should always be allowed

    Votes: 35 36.5%

  • It should never be allowed

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • It should be allowed within the 1st trimester only

    Votes: 9 9.4%

  • It should be allowed up to the 2nd trimester only

    Votes: 16 16.7%

  • It should be allowed within the 1st trimester health exceptions permitting

    Votes: 5 5.2%

  • It should be allowed up to the 2nd trimester health exceptions permitting

    Votes: 24 25.0%

  • It should be allowed only with health exceptions permitting such as death of parent

    Votes: 6 6.3%
  • Total voters
    96
thaiboxerken said:
I would say the same about a person. A fetus/zygote/embrio is not a person.
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You've still yet to prove that.

thaiboxerken said:
Yes, and they should stop where undue interference with another person's life is involved.
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I agree.

thaiboxerken said:
It makes a difference because it is one of the factors involved in my opinion.
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But it is not since you still consider an infant to be a human being even though it is not sapient.

thaiboxerken said:
Of other persons, yes.
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We agree again? We'll be friends yet, TBK.

thaiboxerken said:
THe question is irrelevant.

If it's still in the womb, it is not an individual, sapient being.
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Why?
 
Regarding the poll, I voted that "abortion should always be allowed." Thanks goes to thaiboxerken for supporting this position in the thread.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Why do you think a zygote is a person?
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I believe that a zygote is simply a stage in human development. A zygote is just as much a human as an adult is, it is simply in a different stage of development. The only significant ability I see that the zygote has is the ability to develop into an adult. However, I believe that this ability is great enough to consider a zygote a person.

I don't expect to convince you of my position, however you asked and I answered.

thaiboxerken said:
Location.
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That got a chuckle. I suppose there is nothing else I can say other than I disagree. I also disagree with your conclusion in the following post. But, I think we've reached an impasse and I don't see anyway to constructively continue the conversation.
 
bob_kark said:
The only significant ability I see that the zygote has is the ability to develop into an adult. However, I believe that this ability is great enough to consider a zygote a person.
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I don't agree at all, it has the potential to become a person, nothing more.

I don't expect to convince you of my position, however you asked and I answered.
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I know you don't expect to convince me, but you've certainly been trying to trick me into supporting your position. I find that rather dishonest.
 
The final conclusion is that my body is mine and no one elses. And that any "rights" someone else thinks up stop at my nose.

This goes for both sexes of our species.
 
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