Abortion scandal in Spain

[The Central Scrutinizer]

That there is enough of a market for this that one clinic could make millions is quite disturbing. The bigger question is why is there such demand? They may or may not have provided insight into the root causes, but I hope that someone involved in the story is looking into this.

And the even bigger question: Is it illegal?

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

What an odd question.

Why do you expect an opinion from a journalist reporting a news event? Is it really inconceivable to you that a journalist can merely report, without automatically becoming a pundit, an integrated part of the story?

That has to be the most deplorable declaration of defeat I have ever heard of, when it comes to freedom of speech, and freedom of the press. You don't expect the press to be free, you expect the press to be biased, to be partisan.

I pity you, and the country you live in.

How on Earth can you expect other countries to follow your example, if you are that despondent of your own country?

This coming from someone who lives in a backward country with blasphemy laws. In the 21st century, believe it or not.

 

[Katana]

And the even bigger question: Is it illegal?

Yes. It appears to be. This is from the link that Grammatron provided:

Denmark's legal abortion limit is 12 weeks, while Spain's is 24 weeks, the documentary said.

A pregnant DR reporter used a hidden camera to document when a physician offered to perform an abortion at week 32.

Linky

 

[Darth Rotor]

Denmark's legal abortion limit is 12 weeks, while Spain's is 24 weeks, the documentary said.

A pregnant DR reporter used a hidden camera to document when a physician offered to perform an abortion at week 32.

1. Entrapment a la 60 minutes.
2. Why are Dane's doing media commando raids on Spanish Physicians? Are Spanish medical laws not sovereign to Spain? Has Denmark been appointed medical rules enforcer for the EU?
3. Why does this matter? What was the motivation of this reporter to "Expose" this doctor in Spain? Who had been harmed, and of course, qui bono?

Bloody busybody, as I see it, who traveled ( I guess by air, might have been by train) with a 32 week old fetus. If by air travel, isn't this a risk to the baby? I smell a hypocrite, but given how muddy the matter is, may be a bit off.

DR

 

[HeavyAaron]

Whether they stretch the definition of health to include mental health (i.e., distress if she cannot have an abortion being sufficient) is another question...

I'm pretty sure that they have to as established under Doe v. Bolten.

"...the medical judgment maybe exercised in the light of all factors - physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman's age - relevant to the well-being of the patient. All these factors may relate to health. This allows the attending physician the room he needs...," implying that the "health" exception was not just for physical health, and could therefore be used to allow abortion for any reason at any stage of pregnancy.

From Wikipedia.

This is the huge contention that happens when writing abortion restrictions. According to Roe v. Wade a health exception must exist in any law for any point in the pregnancy. Than Doe v. Bolten says that health includes mental health. That's such a broad door that abortions at any stage can be weaseled into legal.

Aaron

 

[CFLarsen]

This coming from someone who lives in a backward country with blasphemy laws. In the 21st century, believe it or not.

We do not have blasphemy laws.

It really is a good question why this falsehood is repeated. Is it stupidity or malice?

1. Entrapment a la 60 minutes.

Why is it "entrapment"?

2. Why are Dane's doing media commando raids on Spanish Physicians? Are Spanish medical laws not sovereign to Spain? Has Denmark been appointed medical rules enforcer for the EU?

The press picked up a story and investigated. Why do you have problems with that?

3. Why does this matter? What was the motivation of this reporter to "Expose" this doctor in Spain? Who had been harmed, and of course, qui bono?

Who had been harmed? The child. The point is that, at this late stage, the child can survive outside the womb. That makes it a very good question if it is murder.

How far do you think a pregnancy can go, before an abortion is out? Obviously longer than 8 months, so how much longer will you accept?

Bloody busybody, as I see it, who traveled ( I guess by air, might have been by train) with a 32 week old fetus. If by air travel, isn't this a risk to the baby? I smell a hypocrite, but given how muddy the matter is, may be a bit off.

And I smell a trollish post.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Why is it "entrapment"?

Fom the story, a tip to the reporter that that doctor had previously offered/done a "past 24 weeks" abortion, and an appointment with no intent to abort her fetus. Entrapment, a la the US TV Show 60 Minutes.

The press picked up a story and investigated. Why do you have problems with that?

Not generally, but I am curious as to why Danish press feels that muckraking in Spain is appropriate? However, as I am unclear on how reciprocal laws, and EU regulations on this matter all tie together, the profit motive for a scoop is not an unreasonable motivation.

Who had been harmed? The child. The point is that, at this late stage, the child can survive outside the womb. That makes it a very good question if it is murder. How far do you think a pregnancy can go, before an abortion is out? Obviously longer than 8 months, so how much longer will you accept?

As I read the story, she did not get the abortion. Perhaps that got mixed up in translation. I am not particularly keen on abortion, but I think that it needs to be done in the first trimester, if at all, and from what the story tells me, the Danish law is fairly sensible in that regard.

And I smell a trollish post.

Not hardly. Busybodies do little but spawn hate and discontent. I am also curious, and the article does not explain, how the woman travelling to Spain for a 12-24 week abortion is handled in Danish Law. Is this treated similarly to pedophile sex tourism in Asia by a number of EU governments? "Even if you do it overseas, we will charge you?" If so, that is an interesting infringement on the rights of Danes by statute.

DR