AA77 FDR Data, Explained

[WildCat]

This part was found in the Pentagon, is it from a missile or a "smaller plane"?

Turbofan?

 

[Turbofan]

How about showing us a dictionary or encyclopedia instead of a google search of spelling mistakes?

http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?search=masonary

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Masonary

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonary

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Masonary&redirect=no

Foolish much?

How about you use a Canadian reference for spelling?

Some listed Canadian Businesses:

http://www.canpages.ca/page/ON/niagara-falls/d&d-masonary/2762094.html

http://www.prestigebrickandstone.com/rallanlevere.html

Stupid much?

Only you could turn this into a spelling debate to get away from the facts
of this thread.

 

[Turbofan]

I said it was planted smart guys!

If not, please take your shot at the following along with Beachnut.

Again Mr. Engineer, you are not accounting for g , or speed data with your
true track crap.

All the numbers have to line up...unfortunately, your guesses and theories
expose clearly that you have not thought this through very well.

The rest of your post is garbage and does not need to be addressed.

Show all of us how you position the plane at 1.5 DME, using speed, altitude,
g, and heading.

You all will soon see the Beachnut is grasping.

Calling out Wildcat, Jaydeehess, Stateofgrace and Funk de Fino.

Make me a believer

 

[WildCat]

Only you could turn this into a spelling debate to get away from the facts
of this thread.

Such as you claiming a masonry-on-frame wall was "steel-reinforced concrete"?

 

[WildCat]

This part was found in the Pentagon, is it from a missile or a "smaller plane"?

Turbofan? Was this part from a missile? A "smaller plane"? The Coke machine? Any idea?

 

[Obviousman]

I have people who have flown F-16, A-10, B-52, KC-10, and KC-135 aircraft for the USAF. They MAY be willing to express the opinions they have expressed to me about the validity of 9/11 conspiracies... specifically within their area.

They have said to me it's load of bolloxs, but have not asked them to post their identities publicly (they are all USAF retired except two).

 

[funk de fino]

How about you use a Canadian reference for spelling?

Some listed Canadian Businesses:

http://www.canpages.ca/page/ON/niagara-falls/d&d-masonary/2762094.html

From your own link smart guy

http://www.canpages.ca/business/ON/niagara-falls/masonry-and-bricklaying-contractors/3511-503200.html

A spelling mistake in a company name for a canadian masonry company does not make you correct.

Got a canadian dictionary spelling reference?

http://www.prestigebrickandstone.com/rallanlevere.html

Stupid much?

Yes you are eh?

R. Allan Levere Masonary (Certified Mason # 332807) does a wide range of work, from masonry to interlocking bricks and retaining walls.

Only you could turn this into a spelling debate to get away from the facts
of this thread.

I never turned it into a spelling contest I just backed someone else up who started it. You fail again.

The only one who avoids facts here is you. Now get your definition for me please pal.

 

[Turbofan]

Turbofan? Was this part from a missile? A "smaller plane"? The Coke machine? Any idea?

I have already stated three times that it was PLANTED!

I'm only going to reply to your lack of comprehension so many times before
ignoring you again.

Such as you claiming a masonry-on-frame wall was "steel-reinforced concrete"?

Right here smart guy:
http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/020910.Sozen.Pentagon.html

The simulation deals specifically with steel-reinforced concrete buildings, as opposed to skyscrapers like the World Trade Center's twin towers, in which structural steel provided the required strength and stiffness.

Another right here smart guy:

http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/The_Pentagon.html

— U.S. Department of Defense, History of the Pentagon

"A great deal of thought has been given to protecting the Pentagon from fire. Its steel-reinforced concrete construction makes it a fire resistant building

Edited by Lisa Simpson: 

Edited to remove ad hominem.

Please keep in mind the Membership Agreement and do not use personal attacks to argue your point.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

Now answer MY questions:

Again Mr. Engineer, you are not accounting for g , or speed data with your
true track crap.

All the numbers have to line up...unfortunately, your guesses and theories
expose clearly that you have not thought this through very well.

The rest of your post is garbage and does not need to be addressed.

Show all of us how you position the plane at 1.5 DME, using speed, altitude,
g, and heading.

You all will soon see the Beachnut is grasping.

Edited by Lisa Simpson: 

Edited to remove pointless taunting.

 

[funk de fino]

I said it was planted smart guys!

If not, please take your shot at the following along with Beachnut.

Calling out Wildcat, Jaydeehess, Stateofgrace and Funk de Fino.

Make me a believer

Where is Flight 77?

Where are the passengers?

how did they get the passengers DNA into the Pentagon?

How did they get the FDR into the pentagon?

How did they get aircraft parts from a 757 into the Pentagon and onto the lawn?

How did they manage to plant the lamposts?

How quickly will you handwave this post?

 

[WildCat]

I have already stated three times that it was PLANTED!

Was all the debris planted? Any witnesses to this?

I'm only going to reply to your lack of comprehension so many times before
ignoring you again.



Right here smart guy:
http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/020910.Sozen.Pentagon.html


Another right here smart guy:

http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/The_Pentagon.html



Wow, you are just thick dude.

What does any of that have to do with the C-Ring wall being masonry-on-frame construction? You claimed the C-Ring wall was steel-reinforced concrete, remember? Are you really standing by that assertion?

 

[funk de fino]

I
Right here smart guy:
http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/020910.Sozen.Pentagon.html

Another right here smart guy:

http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/The_Pentagon.html

That is not what you claimed. The columns and frames were steel reinforced the masonry wall were not. The wall is what the aircraft hit.

Wow, you are just thick dude.

How old are you? Cowabunga dude

Now answer MY questions:

Calling out Wildcat, Jaydeehess, Stateofgrace, Beachnut, and Funk de Fino.

tell me what you think G has to do with the true track

 

[Turbofan]

How quickly will you handwave this post?

Not as fast as you ignored mine last call-outs. Here is another attempt to
get an answer from members of this forum:

Again Mr. Engineer, you are not accounting for g , or speed data with your
true track crap.

All the numbers have to line up...unfortunately, your guesses and theories
expose clearly that you have not thought this through very well.

The rest of your post is garbage and does not need to be addressed.

Show all of us how you position the plane at 1.5 DME, using speed, altitude,
g, and heading.

You all will soon see the Beachnut is grasping.

Edited by Lisa Simpson: 

Edited to remove pointless taunting.

 

[funk de fino]

Not as fast as you ignored mine last call-outs.

Liar, you just did. And it's "My" not "Mine"

Here is another attempt to
get an answer from members of this forum:

Calling out Wildcat, Jaydeehess, Stateofgrace, Beachnut, and Funk de Fino.

See above, what has G got to do with the true track? Calling out is very childish, cowabunga again dude!!

 

[Turbofan]

That is not what you claimed. The columns and frames were steel reinforced the masonry wall were not. The wall is what the aircraft hit.

Oh, then what does this mean?

Caption One
http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/020910.Sozen.Pentagon.html

physics-based animation that shows what likely happened to the Pentagon's steel-reinforced concrete structure when it was hit by the Boeing 757 last Sept. 11.

tell me what you think G has to do with the true track

True Track? How about speed and altitude! You tell me what g has
to do with the plane's movement.

The third time now:

Show all of us how you position the plane at 1.5 DME, using speed, altitude,
g, and heading.

Edited by Lisa Simpson: 

Edited to remove pointless taunting.

As you can already see, Funk de Fino would rather pick on my typos than answer MY questions.

 

[Bananaman]

In determining whether flight 77 hit the Pentagon which of these points do you think are important and which irrelevant?

Show all of us how you position the plane at 1.5 DME, using speed, altitude,
g, and heading.

Where is Flight 77?

Where are the passengers?

how did they get the passengers DNA into the Pentagon?

How did they get the FDR into the pentagon?

How did they get aircraft parts from a 757 into the Pentagon and onto the lawn?

How did they manage to plant the lamposts?

I'm guessing Turbofan's query wouldn't be top of most people's lists.


Bananaman.

 

[SDC]

This is mere baiting and abuse per Turbofan. In the schoolyard, lo many years ago, would-be bullying like this would be ignored.

Please ignore him. (Or, to be fair, her, if that is true.)

 

[eeyore1954]

turbofan said
I'm only going to reply to your lack of comprehension so many times before ignoring you again.

Right here smart guy:
http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/....Pentagon.html

Another right here smart guy:

http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildi..._Pentagon.html



Wow, you are just thick dude.

Quote:



What does any of that have to do with the C-Ring wall being masonry-on-frame construction? You claimed the C-Ring wall was steel-reinforced concrete, remember? Are you really standing by that assertion?

you claimed the C ring was steel reinforced is that true?

 

[funk de fino]

Oh, then what does this mean?

Caption One
http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/020910.Sozen.Pentagon.html

Not what you think it does. The columns and frame of the building was steel reinforced, the masonry walls were not. That is what your links says This is what you claimed while showing a picture of the interior wall.

They can cut oval holes in steel re-inforced concrete too!

well?

True Track? How about speed and altitude! You tell me what g has
to do with the plane's movement.

The third time now:
Calling out Wildcat, Jaydeehess, Stateofgrace, Beachnut, and Funk de Fino.

Again Mr. Engineer, you are not accounting for g , or speed data with yourtrue track crap.

Yes, you said beachnut forgot G when he mentioned true track, so you tell me what G has to do with the true track of the aircraft?

 

[eeyore1954]

Originally Posted by Turbofan
I have already stated three times that it was PLANTED!

Wildcat answered

Was all the debris planted? Any witnesses to this?

If any evidence disagrees with you it was planted. DNA , phone calls from flight , witnesses of plane hitting pentagon , debris , wasn't there radar tracking of plane which never reappeared (if there was Air traffic controllers planted) , human remains , light poles , taxi driver and others who saw plane hit poles planted , all the people who did not see any plane aiming for pentagon continuing after it missed (not planted maybe hypnotized).

There is no arguing with your kind of logic Turbofan

 

[Turbofan]

In determinging whether flight 77 hit the Pentagon which of these points do you think are important and which irrelevant?

They are all important to determine the distance, position and altitude
with regard to the light poles and impact point of the Pentagon.

What's your take on the points Bananaman?

They can cut oval holes in steel re-inforced concrete too!
well?

OK, fair enough. How does the shape of landing gear cut an oval hole in
a brick wall?

Again Mr. Engineer, you are not accounting for g , or speed data with yourtrue track crap.

Yes, you said beachnut forgot G when he mentioned true track, so you tell me what G has to do with the true track of the aircraft?

I'm asking how he's accounting for all of the data as a whole. He mentions
true track, but doesn't explain his conclusion while considering g's and speed.

NOw for the fourth time, you have ignored the question.

I'll expect you to answer this next time you post, or we'll all just assume
you don't know and that's fine. That will explain a lot.